The Klitschko Curve...

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  1. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Over his last two fights Wladimir Klitschko has fought two top five ranked heavyweights. Though he won both fights convincingly, one by TKO, the other by KO, he is roundly criticised for not ending the fights earlier.

    Question: If I told you that a fighter in the heavyweight division had beaten two top five ranked heavies in that fashion, would you be impressed? Furthermore, what if I told you that he won all 21 out of 21 rounds (which I believe he did), would you then be impressed? Then, what if I told you it was Wlad?

    My point is that many people seem to judge Wlad on his size and muscle tone and the fact that he is bigger than 95 percent of the men that he encoutners. Well, is this fair? Because if it's not, then maybe we should lobby for a Superheavyweight division. In my mind, at least, all heavyweights are created equal and size does not enter into, since smaller fighters often have their own share of natural advantages. It just so happens, again my opinion, that Wlad fights like a much smaller man.

    Still, there is such a thing as the Klitschko curve.
     
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  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Wlad looks more menacing than he ends up being so people feel a little disappointed that he jabs the **** out of his opponents.

    I personally love watching him fight.
     
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  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    if you really look at it there is a curve like that for every fighter. It just depends on who you ask.
     
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  4. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think so. I think it's much more pronounced at heavyweight. That's not saying that other heavies didn't have to deal with the same sliding scale, but Wlad, in particular seems to suffer from this. Whether you like him or not, he is a dominant heavyweight. That's just a fact...eight title defenses, virtual shut outs and terrified or at least very concerned opponents.
     
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  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    You could say the same about Vitali. Sam Peter, Juan Carlos Gomez, and Chris Arreola were all top5 opponents that he arguably won every round off of and stopped. Yet some people think he is shot.
     
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  6. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good:good:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb
     
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  7. Boxing Fanatic

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    It's a weak division. Except for Haye, who is beatable, there is nobody else. People still question whether Wlad can beat guys like Tyson, Riddick Bowe, and Lewis. I think he would struggle against either 3.
     
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  8. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    Its simply because we have been treated to so much great heavyweight action and fighters in the past that watching the Klitschkos, whilst talented, skilled and effective, are not as exciting as heavyweights from past years.
     
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  9. Boggle

    Boggle Grozny State Of Mind Full Member

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    I like Wlad, but some of the criticism he receives is justified. The reason he's held to a higher standard is because it's obvious that he's capable of more. Granted, Chambers almost got ktfo in the 2nd round. He should have had Chambers out of there by the 9th round, no later. He was ready for the taking. If he didn't get that knockout in the last ten seconds of the fight he would catch hell for it, and rightly so. That was fortunate. He was coasting comfortably towards a UD, until Steward started bugging out. All he needed to do was step on the gas and take the guy out. He proved that in the 12th round. Wlad has all the tools at his disposal, it's just a matter of using them.
     
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  10. Predicto

    Predicto Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well put :good
     
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  11. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    wtf?
     
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  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    when everyone knows eddie chambers didnt have a chance....then you factor in he was 30 something pounds heavier, which i would equate to about 50 pounds because wlad is rock solid at 244 and chambers was a soft 210 or whatever he weighed...chambers if he were to lose weight and tone his body like wlads would prob weigh 195
    so, bottom line, it shouldnt take a guy that damn long to KO someone that small considering all the experience wlad has at this point
     
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  13. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    HATER!!!!!:fire
     
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  14. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Some boxing basics for everyone:

    Tall men with skill don't like to engage when they do not have to as this adds unnecessary risk.

    Short fighters tend to be more aggressive because they have to be.
     
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  15. hoopsman

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    :good
     
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