Calzaghe tried to fight Roy Jones in the early 2000's

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  1. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    So was Calzaghe willing to move up to 175 to face Jones?

    I really don't believe this bs, ALOT of fighters like to call out names, but most of them do **** to actually chase a fight with them, and Calzaghe himself showed no interest in
    actually wanting a fight with Jones. He was happy to just stay in his backyard defending his title against bums.
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  2. chriswrench

    chriswrench Active Member Full Member

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    he was prime in terms of age but still relatively lacking in experience compared to Jones, who at the time was absolutely dominant.
     
  3. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would say it's pretty difficult to state outright when B-hops prime was and you certainly can't base it on age. He became more and more wiley with age!!!
     
  4. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree. Calzaghe make have wanted it and he may have taken it had the deal been good enough, in his backyard and on his terms...which, as a largely unknown fighter at the time, he was never going to get.

    But Joe had absolutely no desire to go to America, make his name, and challenge the best fighters of his generation in their prime...I might add that dozens of legendary foreign fighters have done exactly that from Chavez to Roberto Duran. They have gone to American and challenged and called out the best, when the best were Americans in their division. Joe wanted no part of it. Or at least he didn't want to work for it.
     
  5. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's fair. But it logical to think that his best or near his best may have been in his late twenties (when he fought Jones) or early thirties, as it is for most fighters. Just because he maintained his body and beat smaller fighters like Oscar and Trinidad does not mean he was in his prime.
     
  6. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not true. Jones had been in 21 fight when he faced Hopkins, Bernard had been in 23. Bernard had also been a pro a year longer than Roy.
     
  7. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    look to be honest your still not answering my question, now look at the people he could of fought, eubank , benn, collins, why dont you understand that he could of fought any of them, but didnt, and please, prime hopkins fought tito, that hopkins was to green, who did he fight prior to roy other than bums! :good
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I think you've forgotten which one 'agreeing' is again? :lol::nut
     
  9. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    Prove that roy wanted any piece of, calzaghe, eubank, benn, collins or michalczewski and i will agree with you, and you tell me if roys career is really glitterd with hall of famers in comparison to the fighters i just mentioned, I agree with alot of what you said cos i agree bpoth made unrealistic fight demands.

    but with so many great fights out there which could of been, roy was the one fighter evreybody mentioned and to have none of there names on the record does say he is filled with ducking such great fighters of the division
     
  10. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am of the opinion that fighters make decision based on business, not fear. Does it happen at times, sure. I think Bowe was afraid of Lewis. But to claim that Roy Jones who fought and beat legendary fighter in his prime was afraid of guys like Collins, old Eubank and Benn is simply behind my ken. It makes no sense. And Dariuz Michakwhatchumacallit? Come now.
     
  11. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not sure what you mean:?
     
  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    You quoted my post saying that Calzaghe had agreed to fight Hopkins in the US in 2002, which is evidence of his intent to fight in the US (against the then P4P number one), then started your reply with 'I agree' than the rest of your post put a completely contrary argument.
     
  13. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    I agree calzaghe didnt have the glory fights, and did fight alot of bums, but im talking about roy, he did the exact same thing, come on and open your eyes to the opposition he could of had, he was the P4P#1 and all the oppertunitys roy had he could of got the best fighters far more easier than joe just because he was highely more recognised.
     
  14. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Listen, not wanting to fight other fighters does not necessarily imply ducking. There are a hundred good reasons why fights don't happen. And in my eyes, none of the fighters that you mentioned truly deserved a shot at jones. Collins? Old Eubank and Benn? Calzaghe (circa 2000) Come on.

    That was the point I've been making. Did Calzaghe want to fight these guys, maybe...Okay, let's even say that he did. He was the nobody. It was up to him to chase these guys down, call them out and establish a reputation for himself in the State so that they absolutely had to fight them. So that journalist would be asking young Jones, Hopkin, ect when they were going to fight this young upstart, Joe Calzaghe. Did that happen??? Did you even hear a reporter ask a young Jones or Hopkins when they were going to mix it up with Joe??? No, you didn't. That's because Joe didn't do anything to make it happen.
     
  15. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh, sorry. I must've responded to the wrong post.