I re-watched and re-scored Barrera vs Morales 1 for the 1st time in years last night

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Apr 9, 2010.


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  1. horst

    horst Guest

    And I'm shocked by how my card ended up.

    I saw this fight on live tv in 2000, and have watched it 2 or 3 times over the years since.

    Each time, I remember thinking that Barrera was the close-yet-clear winner, by 3-4 points, something in that region.

    Last night, my card ended up Barrera 114-113, and of course that was only because the ref's wrong decision to award a KD enforces the last round to be 10-8 MAB. I had Morales up 6-5 going into the final three minutes.

    So, if the ref had made the right call and ruled the KD a slip, I'd have had either a draw or a Morales win, MAB could not have won the fight on my card. Which as I say, is pretty shocking to me because for years and years I have laboured under the misapprehension that Barrera fully deserved the victory.

    For me, Barrera probably did the more quality work (aided and abetted by Morales's frankly rather **** defence - why does he go back in a straight line and stand straight up with his hands down like a streetlight waiting to be punched in the face???), but Morales outworked him in most of the rounds, his volume seeing him edge a couple of close ones.


    What do you guys think? Was this a razor-thin fight that could've went either way, or was I right originally and it should have been a solid Barrera win?


    (*sorry Addie mate, but this was my honest card from last night)
     
    horst, Apr 9, 2010
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  2. Golden Boy 360

    Golden Boy 360 Boxing's Biggest Cash Cow Full Member

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    This is my card, I didn't watch it live but on Youtube.com and can't remeber much of it but it was one of the best fights I've seen.

    Barrera 116-113 Morales I
     
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  3. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1st fight, Barrera won
    2nd fight, Morales won
    3rd fight, Barrera edged very closely, but a draw would have been ok.
     
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  4. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Thank you Popkins....

    I have always scored this fight razor close & time & again people have screamed about my inability to score a Morales fight fairly because he`s my favourite fighter.

    I tell them to watch it with the sound down & they tell me to stop being a fanboy & accept Barrera won clearly.

    Ive seen this fight more than any other fight & to me, there is no loser, a draw IS the fairest result.

    :good
     
    Bill Butcher, Apr 9, 2010
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  5. horst

    horst Guest

    Have you watched and/or scored the 1st fight recently?
     
    horst, Apr 9, 2010
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  6. horst

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    I have been one of those people in the past, so now apologize for that. My initial scoring was bogus. I had Morales 6-5 up going into the last and the KD was clearly a slip. I didn't put the sound off though, commentators talking shite doesn't put me off at all, I score what I see.

    PS: WHAT a fight!

    PPS: Still waiting on your response to my last post on Nallege's thread from yesterday.
     
    horst, Apr 9, 2010
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  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    The fact is... most rds were close... few rds were won clearly by either guy.... Barrera edged a couple of those close rds by landing a spectacular combination... Morales won a couple of those close rds by simply throwing & landing more than Barrera.

    Its always baffled me why anyone could think Barrera won this clearly, it really was as back & forth fight as you could get, the commentators & the fact that Erik was such a huge favourite going in doesnt help either.
     
    Bill Butcher, Apr 9, 2010
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  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Whats the name of the thread & I`ll check it out ?

    Ps. Ive been using the computers in the library as of late because my laptop is fkd, they only give you an hour... using my dads right now tho :good
     
    Bill Butcher, Apr 9, 2010
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  9. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Barrera won all 3 fights...
     
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  10. horst

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    Can't mind the right name, just search threads made by that ****ing ****** and you'll find it. It was the one about Morales and Pacquiao (obviously :D)
     
    horst, Apr 9, 2010
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  11. horst

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    Scorecard for any/all of them?
     
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  12. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    I dont remember my card but i Had Barrera the clear winner in a close fight,there was some close rounds and some rounds it seemed that MAB was getting outworked but most of the punches that Morales was throwing were being blocked while almost every punch that MAB threw landed cleanly and he had Morales hurt several times during the fight.

    Its quality over quantity for me,close fight but with a clear winner unfortunately the guy i thought won the fight didnt get the decision.
     
    bladerunner, Apr 9, 2010
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  13. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why, have they produced a rigged version recently?
     
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  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I dont mind if you score fights 1 & 3 for him, even tho both were razor thin but no way Morales never took 7 rds in that 2nd fight, no way, you need to re-check that ****.
     
    Bill Butcher, Apr 9, 2010
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  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Fight 1
    -------
    1. MAB
    2. MAB
    3. Even
    4. EM
    5. EM
    6. EM
    7. EM
    8. MAB
    9. EM
    10. EM
    11. Even
    12. MAB (10-9 tho, there was no KD)

    Fight 2
    -------
    1. EM
    2. EM
    3. Even
    4. EM
    5. EM
    6. MAB
    7. EM (Morales denied a legit KD by dumbass Jay Nady in this rd)
    8. EM
    9. MAB
    10. EM
    11. EM
    12. MAB

    Fight 3
    -------
    1. MAB
    2. EM
    3. MAB
    4. EM
    5. MAB
    6. MAB (clearest rd of the fight, not clear enough to be 10-8 tho)
    7. EM
    8. EM
    9. MAB
    10. MAB
    11. EM
    12. EM


    Cant be arsed counting up the totals but its obvious that Morales won the clearest fight of the trilogy in my eyes - fight 2.
     
    Bill Butcher, Apr 9, 2010
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