The future of boxing in USA

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  1. boxexpert

    boxexpert Active Member Full Member

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    talent alone doesnt get you anywhere. besides that, there are dozens of russian fighters with an amateur record of 200 fights which will turn pro soon and whoop the asses of all those so calles "talents"

    andrade? pls....you cant be serious
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: Sure they will. Heard it for the past 10 years. Still waiting.
     
  3. Uncle Oden

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    are you talking about the ratings that do not include Dawson, Ward, Dirrell, Alexander, Bradley, Pavlik, Williams to start? And that's just the established young stars, not mentioning young guys like Mike Jones, Fernando Guerrero, etc...

    I guess you are talking about the ratings that don't include those guys. Great point. Numbnuts.:hi:
     
  4. Uncle Oden

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    have you ever been in a more illogical, dumbfounded argument than this one with these tools?
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

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    :rofl Notice that they just make **** up? So-called Russians with 200-0 amatuer records. So-called ratings where they have top 10 fighters.
     
  6. MrMagic

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    boxexpert is obviously not living up to his name, but it is true.

    The most promising European amateurs apart from Povetkin, Korobov and a few others have pushed up their pro-debut.

    Guys like Lomachencko are going pro after the 2012 games.
     
  7. MrMagic

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    Look at Kubrat Pulev, he's doing what Povetkin was supposed to do. Moving along accordingly, sure, Kubrat may not be on the same level as Sasha, but he's doing what most these guys should've done.

    Lets hope Alexander does not sit on his mandatory status for much longer, people will grow impatient if Teddy takes up any more time building him.
     
  8. Uncle Oden

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    well if they all turn out like Beibut Shumenov, it's safe to say America will reign supreme for the next 200 years.
     
  9. Uncle Oden

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    i think people are at that point.
     
  10. arsabs

    arsabs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this thread is all about butt hurt europeans unable to penetrate american market, you can deny this but its obvious. europeans should stop whining and start supporting boxers on your homefront before you hit americans for being less supportive of your exported talents. US is every boxers dream of making it big, its the biggest market for boxing out there. the biggest market will always produce great marketable boxers, sadly euros export is not good enough for the american public.

    deal with it.
     
  11. MrMagic

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    Looking at the last world championship bracket for amateurs, USA had one of the worst years ever, assembling only one silver medal.

    Out of 44 possible medals, only one of silver brand.
     
  12. nipplefloss

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    He will be 24. Part of the reason that the US hasn't done as well at the Olympics recently is that you've got guys from Cuba or the Eastern bloc hanging around til they are in their early 20s as amateurs while American prospects turn pro much earlier so they can start earning a living.

    Olympic gold isn't a huge selling point, nationally, anyway. Ward won gold and outside of Oakland no one even knows who he is. For most prospects it's better to start getting pro experience early and make sure they don't spend their physical prime fighting cans.
     
  13. boxexpert

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    well spoken and very true. just having a huge quantity of ighters doesnt mean anything.

    pls see the list of the world champions and the ratings of the four main boxing federations;

    WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO:

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/Boxing-Rankings/IBF-Official-Boxing-Rankings.php


    that says it all,america is getting weaker and weaker
     
  14. MrMagic

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    And thats one of the problems in the US as far as I am concerned.

    You've got these amateurs who are national heroes, like Vasyl Lomachencko and Cammarelle. Look at James DeGale who got a $2m contract right off the bat from winning the gold medal in the olympics. But where are the American amateurs? Danny Jacobs?

    These guys build their fanbase from an early age, and they get recognized and they get lucrative contracts off of amateur accomplishments. Boxing in USA overall isn't what it was, even in '84, when there was a heavyweight draught, you had one of the most impressive teams for the olympics, ever, hands down.
     
  15. arsabs

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    have you realized you just posted a link to another boxing forum?