The USA vs. Europe Rivalry. Who's really winning?

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  1. Arran

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    Ring magazine and every journo in attendence had Froch winning, the fans on here were nervous no doubt.....oh and the 3 judges had Froch winning to.
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

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    Source? I keep hearing Froch ***s saying this, yet no Froch *** has yet produced a source.

    Hell I know the USA today had Dirrell winning 117-110


    Actually only 2 judges had Froch winning. The European ones of course. :yep
     
  3. boxingscience

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    dirrell lost. you're making out like dirrell dominated, no, dirrell could of dominated IMO, he's good enough i reckon, but chose to be too negative. you can't do that when fighting in someones hometown.
     
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    If you wanna see the class difference between Andre Dirrell and Carl "Slobra" Froch

    Watch this clip

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phta5fkCDTw[/ame]



    Dirrell lands crisp double left, Froch backs up into the ropes stunned, Froch then grabs the back of Dirrells head, pounds away, then unleashes a wide left hook that Dirrell dodges with ease. "whoooosh" You can actually hear it.

    So in that little 10 second sequence, Dirrell hurts Froch, Froch illegal hits Dirrell in the back of the head, then unleashes a wild hook that hits nothing but air

    Basically summarizing the fight.
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

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    So you admit that the only reason Froch won was because of hometown cooking?

    Who landed the cleaner punches? Who had the better defense?

    I think you know who won the fight, stop lying to yourself.
     
  6. Arran

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    back to what you said earlier about Ruiz, you said Haye was allowed to foul as he was in England....the ref was from Mexcio.....so whats your point?
     
  7. Arran

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    I know who won, check boxrec if you dont. It was hardly on a level with Lewis v Holyfield or Strum V ODLH was it?
     
  8. Talivar

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    No matter what you say or want, Froch is the undefeated champion and Dirrell still the wannabe at this point. I do respect you in some ways tho atleast you havent tried to tell us that in 1000bc ppl where hunter gatherer cavemen still and greece isnt part of europe. So in that respect you an intelectual step up from others:)
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

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    You'd have to seriously stretch to give Froch 4 rounds. So yeah about the level of Lewis and Sturm. Except Holyfield and ODLH actually landed punches. Froch couldnt hit ****.
     
  10. time

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    There is more rivilary between individual euro countries than between any euro country and america, if one "euro" fighter is fighting an american there is very little if any interest in other euro countries but if say a german was fighting a brit it becomes very big in the countries that do follow boxing in europe, the likes of the uk, germany, poland, ukraine, ireland, other than that i dont think boxing even registers much at all
     
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    i'm not lying. i'm saying dirrell had the ability to box better, and actually maybe even stop froch, and that's a compliment by the way, but instead he decided to box too negative against a hometown fighter. you just can't do that without risking a loss on your record, and the fight was quite close as dirrell gave a few rounds away by just moving and not enough boxing.
     
  12. time

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    Both froch and dirrell were hopeless in that fight but at the end of the day it was froch who held the belt and was fighting at home, did dirrell do enough to take the belt, imo no, he was pretty crap, just a small bit better than froch but a lot of rounds were messy and very close and could have gone either way but often go to the belt holder at home, i thought this should be pretty obvious

    If dirrell was fighting at home i wouldnt be suprised if the judges gave him a landslide victory with the way judging has gone in the states
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    Of course. We tend to favor boxers in the states. We put a premium on clean punching, defense and effective aggression, nothing of which Froch showed in the fight.

    Meanwhile I think its become clear Brits put a premium on winning any way you can. Rabbit punching, body slams, hitting on the break ect. Ala Ricky Hatton vs Kosta Tszyu, Carl Froch vs Dirrell, or Haye vs Ruiz.

    In all honesty though, Froch probably doesnt see the final bell. He'd probably get disqualified.

    Hatton tried that hitting behind the head **** on Mayweather and got deducted a point promptly, I could only imagine Froch being deducted 2-3 times then simply being kicked out of the fight.
     
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    What rounds do you think Froch deserved to get?
     
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    In the USA you prefer acting...Dirrell, Hopkins etc