The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Mosley also said he could see how it would bother some fighters. I personally would hate to give that tube of blood before any amateur bout, I absolutely hate blood tests and I've only ever done it once, yet alone leading up to the most important fight of my life.

Of course you can argue that for 25mil, you will let them take blood tests between rounds, same applies to the other though, for 25mil id let my opponent inject steroids, epo, ped's whatever between rounds, specially when I know I can beat them easy regardless.

 

All of that was on Manny.

It is all circumstantial evidence that when examined show that Manny makes no sense. Like I said, him being a cheat is my opinion. Anyone with common sense sees that Manny's actions, words, and events don't add up.

 

-- (Attempt to duck) FMJ will not fight due to purse split... Nope

No idea what this means

-- Arum goes to the press and sees no reason why the fight shouldn't be made with the terms

Again no idea what your saying

-- Manny won't respond and Arum must fly to PI

Still no clue what your talking about

-- Agreed to testing then backed out

There was apparently some stipulation for blood testing in the contract. I don't know what the exact stipulations were, and I don't think you do either. If you have the exact information, why don't you post it up.


-- Fear of needles (tattoos)

Manny or Roach never said he was afraid of needles. This was something that came out of Bob Arums mouth once, and he talks A LOT of nonsense. If you followed this whole debacle from day one and kept up with the news reports, there was a ton of misinformation and lack of communication between the camps and especially inside Manny's camp.

-- Weakened (Roach said he trained right after blood testing for Clottey)

Give me a quote where he says that.


-- 30 days, 24 days, 14 days no fight, but test at 20 for Clottey?

Manny had no obligation to agree to olympic style blood testing, when there's already a drug testing protocol in place in boxing. In any case, he offered Mayweather a blood test before the press tour, once 30 days before the fight, and once immediately after the fight, in the locker room. Mayweather refused. Then Pacquiao offered 24 days. Mayweather refused.

Mayweather apparently offered 14 days, but again there was a ton of miscommunication between the camps if you read the news reports. Pac also was mad as **** at Mayweather for accusing him of roiding, and didn't want to go along with his stipulations.

-- There is still no word as to why 14 days is not long enough!

I don't know why they didn't' take 14 days ,but I attribute this to miscommuication. Nothing was clear. And while Bob Arum was arguing with Shaefer in a courtroom, Manny was off in the Philippines doing his own thing.

Really it was Arum that caused most of the negotiations to stall, not Pacquiao.

-- Drop the testing and we will drop the lawsuit. Huh?

That's just an idea from Roach to get the fight made. Since he knows Pacquiao doesn't want to go along with Mayweather's bull****, and Floyd is too scared to fight Pac without getting his blood drawn - he figures this might be a solution.

 

damn you floyderinas never give up do you? same crackheads saying manny's doping, which there has never been any proof of, are the same crackheads want the world to believe O.J. was innocent. :rofl

 

All the questions you asked are irrelevant unless there is some type of criminal investigation. There isnt. There can be no "hard" evidence unless the man is FORCED to test by law enforcement OR... Submits to testing!

He obviously won't submit to testing. He is allegedly clean. He uses nothing in training. So the next question you have to ask yourself is, "Why?"

 

To cite an example, drop the testing and we will drop the lawsuit was not on Manny. This was Roach's statement in an interview, which was eventually refuted.

But as you said, it's all your opinion.

 

I would buy that argument but:

Pac agreed to 3 blood tests, much more than the norm, 1 60 days before fight, 1 24 days before the fight, 1 straight after the fight.

Pac also agreed to unlimited urine samples, which from the looks of it cant detect everything the blood can except hgh, and its not until recently after the talks that blood has detected hgh anyways.

That doesn't sound like a man who is afraid of being exposed, if he was he wouldn't have negotiated anything at all.

Also if Pac wanted to "hide" something, he would simply cycle off season and not during an upcoming fight, so flush it down way before. Or he could simply not use it at all.

If Pac was on HGH, Human Growth Hormone, like many are accusing him off, surely he would have used that to go up from LW to WW. However, Pac is now a WW, therefore he doesn't need it anymore, therefore nothing will show up on tests cos he wont use it for this fight. Unless you are seriously implying that a 147lb man needs steroids just to maintain that weight...?

It just doesnt add up to him being on drugs to be honest, at least not for this fight..

 

Watching that, one thing is pretty much certain. Manny, will never let that be done to him in training. Floyd will have to give that up if he wants to fight him.

 

And he won't because he's scared of Pacquiao. There's no doubt about it.

 

WELLLLLLLLL, I am NOT a Floyd fan by any means, u are more than welcome to check my posting history from the very beginning, but this time he is right, by miles..... pacquiao is a cheat & a disgrace for the sport... there's no way a sane person can justify his actions regarding this issue, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING with common sesnse can be said to defend this poor excuse of a "pro athlete." pacquiao= GUILTY AS CHARGED! PED USER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:yep

 

This is exactly what I mean. You are ignorant on the subject, but you want to argue? You don't understand because you don't know anything about the chain of events leading up to the fight falling apart!

You Pac fans are simple.

 

Will you take 25 million dollars to fight Pacquiao knowing it is an easy win. Floyd didn't take it.

 

So is Manny in charge of Team Pac or not? So basically you guys have decided that nothing is "official" unless it comes out of Pac's mouth, but Pac has Bob Arum doing his business. It makes no sense.

True. It is my opinion. Just like it was Mayweather Sr.'s opinion. Manny had a choice, either take the test and beat FMJ's ass or run. He ran.

 

I agree, this should have happened a long time ago and it shouldn't be PBF driving it, the authorities should be. Proper drug testing is an absolute MUST at the highest level regardless of what people make of the Pac/PBF nonsense.

 

There is no such thing as an "easy win" in boxing. All fights are "life or death".