A recent view about Gerald McClellan's status post fight.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JonOli, Apr 10, 2010.


  1. wellsini

    wellsini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your a bell end you are sir
     
  2. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    According to Hozumi Hooks logic, every spanish bullfighter deserves to suffer for life too??

    This type of cruelty is almost always a product of growing up in a culture where it is, for whatever reason, acceptable to treat animals like ****. It doesn't mean the perpetrators are evil ****s, more like naturally impressionable people that want to fit in.

    My mother is from Jamiaca, where dogs are kicked around and treated like dirt all day. Although i disagree with it, I wouldn't go so far as to say the wrongdoer deserves to suffer for the rest of his life. Its pure ignorance on his behalf, mixed with probable frustration at having a shitty life. To him, the dog is nothing more than an outlet for frustration (much like the slaves were to the whites). These things are normally the result of collective cultural conscience and history.

    Mclellan could clearly be a cruel man, but I would suggest Hozumi Hook takes a trip to one of many places and learns a bit more about human nature.

    This was the best fight I have ever seen in a British ring (yes, i was there, seems like a lifetime ago). The atmosphere was unbelievable, right up there with the eubank benn fights. It was a truly tragic ending. Ever since I can't stand seeing fighters get hit to the back of the head.

    This Bunce info is new to me and i would appreciate if anybody else could perhaps shed some light on this.
     
  3. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    You have no right to wish for prolonged suffering of another human, especially if he/she is already 'paying' for mistakes he/she made.

    It's sick to even suggest that and if you really meant that it shows something about you.

    Totally wrong argument to counter the other post. Of course a man's life is worth more than a dog's, that doesn't mean that any man has the right to torture other species just because he's superior to them. They never harm you and they feel pain and suffering as much as we do. What the **** are you talking about.

    We're talking about a man's drama, and you mumble about what you thought of him as a boxer. Not only that, but you describe a disabled and sad human being as a disgrace. If anything, respect the condition he's in right now.

    As always, you're way off the point. Time and time again.
     
  4. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    I've heard it before. It's shocking if it is true, although I can understand that the Americans thought that their health system was better... but it was also miles and miles away. what a shame...
     
  5. Thread Stealer

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    I had not heard that before. Most of the articles and books I've read said he collapsed into a coma later that night, was in the coma for almost two weeks, and stayed in Royal London hospital for a long time after that.
     
  6. Delroc

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    i dont remember ever saying it was acceptable because we're superior, i think your reading into my response too much i only made the point that human rights =/= animal rights.
     
  7. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    So what does that mean exactly?
     
  8. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    go **** yourself ****, no one deserves what he was given

    think about his poor family and then go and jump out the closest window please
     
  9. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    uhhhh exactly what i said in my first post, that i dont believe you can judge a man for how he treats animals.

    my first post was fairly straight forward you just jumped to a tangent and assumed i meant something that i never said. but while you opened the subject ill bite, of course they suffer but you cant place animal suffering over human suffering.
     
  10. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was so over his head that night.

    He was lured into thinking he was good based on beating bum after bum and has-been.

    Then his management made the same decision Lacy's management made with Lacy.

    The difference is that when Lacy stepped up with no clue of what real world class was, he met a fighter with almost no punching power. Lacy should be so happy about this. However, from a legacy point of view it would have been better to have been Koed in round 2 or something - and never fight again. Then the crazy Lacy hype would have continued to this day.. but he might have been disabled like McClellan.

    When McClellan stepped up, he did so far beyond any level he had ever been at - he thought like Lacy - that he had been in the ring with good fighters .. whereas in reality his opponents were extremely carefully handpicked. Benn is as crude technically as they come - and this obviously helped McClellan's team make the decision to fight him, because this was the type they had matched McClellan with over his carreer. However, although Benn was the style McClellan was used to (because they avoided good technicians after seeing Gerald being easily outboxed by mediocre technicians earlier in his carreer), BUT - Benn was not only crude, he was very very tough as well.

    The point is that McClellan should never had been in the ring with McClellan any more than Lacy should have been in the ring with Calzaghe.
     
  11. Delroc

    Delroc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so in over his head that he almost KO'd benn in the first round? its been a while since i saw the fight but i remember Benn was down for over 10 seconds and the ref basically SAVED Benn by separating them needlessly and buying Benn time to recover regardless if this was the refs intention or not.
     
  12. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Of course you can.

    If someone gets a kick out of killing random animals by dismemberment, you can easily assume something is very wrong with him.

    I don't quite understand this 'dilemma'.

    Nobody asked us to choose one over the other, both are terribly wrong and should never happen. If you like to think that one is 'more wrong' than the other, suit yourself. But they're both wrong.
     
  13. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    Who the flying **** are you?!?!


    Go wrap an oversized dildo wrapped in faux fur and shove it up your scrawny PETA soldier ass.

    *******.....stick to watching Dr. Doolittle you souless ****.
     
  14. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    god damn PETA hippies :-(
     
  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I wouldn't wish that kind of stuff upon him.

    But still. If the stuff about the animals it's true, then yes it's disgraceful. You can't abuse animals in that way, and people who do things to animals to that extreme they probably do other ****ed up **** too. I mean buying a puppy and tape his mouth then let your pitbull rip him to shreds? Run over birds? Shoot your dog in the head for losing a fight? Yep, it qualifies as disgraceful.