Chris Bryd TKO 10 Vitali Klitschko- Let's revist round 9

The way Olsen Filiaina ran over poor Wally years ago only makes me fear for his life if David Tua was let loose on him

 

The 1990's was loaded with talent at heavyweight. The following hall of fame, or likely hall of fame members were active. Foreman, Holmes, Lewis, Tyson, Bowe, and Holyfield. The depth was very good in the 1990's too. Morrer, Morrison, Mercer, McCall, Tua, Ike, Golota, etc...

 

I think it's completely irrelevant where the potential boxing talents are.

It's kind of obvious that and all times there are people who have never engaged in a sport who would have been great had they done so. At that applies to all sports, and at all times.

I think the less people getting into boxing does necessarily mean a smaller talent pool, but it's irrelevant what potential boxers are doing instead of fighting.

 

C'mon, Holmes and Foreman were RELICS from the 70s and early 80s !
Old and out-of-shape.

The very fact that they are being listed as top fighters of the 1990s is actually suggestive of a LACK of talent in the division at that time.

Most of the names you mention are just ordinary contenders, typical of any other era.

 

Foreman was better suited to championship fighting in the 90's. He could go rounds if the KO did not arrive early. He could pace himself. What he lost physically (which wasn't much) he more than made up for between the ears. Holmes best win in the 90's was a very inconsistent Ray Mercer. Laudable but he was hardly a force.

I really can't take seriously any line of argumentation that discounts the 90's as being one of the deepest era's for the division. And I contend it is far and away the decade with the hardest punchers.

 

I doubt that.

Perhaps

 

foreman lost a huge lot physically.
he did not sit on his stool during breaks , as he was too fat and degenerated. is there any clearer sign of decline ?

true.

 

i think he regrets it nowadays, you can tell by performance against lewis.

i think he thought the fight was over so he quit more inexpereince than anything. reminds me of the victor ortiz thing. he quit but not becuase he was pussing out he felt he had lost. yeah he quit but i think retired is a better word to describe it.

also your corner is suppose to keep you in the fight and they where pretty quick to wave it without any other insurance. ulli wagner almost pushed abe out after the orrificly broken jaw. arthur was ready to quit and fight another day.

 

He showed a lot more stamina, namely because he conserved his energy so well. And he was still as strong as an ox.

 

Foreman of the 1990s was not even close to the Prime Foreman of the 1970s. To claim otherwise is blasphemy. Foreman of the 1990s could be outboxed by almost anyone. Even B level fighters like Alex Stewart, Axel Shulz could outbox him. Glass Jaw Morrison shut him out. Foreman of the 70s would have tracked Stewart, Shulz, and Morrison down and wasted them all in 1-2 rounds.

 

And Foreman in the 1970's was a great boxer? Hardly. Ali was well up on Foreman before the stoppage, and Jimmy Young also out pointed Foreman. The two best boxers from a skills sense defeated Foreman in the 1970's.

 

Call me a blasphemer. Foreman was a different fighter but better in some regards. He was full of holes in 70's and was exploited by b-level fighters in Lyle, Young, and let's be frank, an over the hill Ali. Oh, let's hear the shouts but that version of Ali would not have lasted with teh best of Holyfield, Bowe or Lewis in the 90's. Big dumb George was a perfect foil, though.

Foreman of the 90's had a different set of holes. Call one better than the other, sure. But it ain't by much.

 

and what is exactly up with that avatar. or should i even ask?

 

But, in a time machine, who wins? 70's Foreman or 90's Foreman?