The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    ***** please!:verysad There you go assuming **** again...As usual!
     
  2. Rudyard

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    That racist piece of **** probably doesnt even have a job!:lol: he's the type to steal free ****!:rofl
     
  3. Rudyard

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    :lol::rofl:lol: LMAO at this clown ass *****! You seem to dont get it do you! Nobody likes you...you're constantly making a ****ing fool of yourself! step up your game and come cut my grass *****!:good
     
  4. pejevan

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    Drug Testing For HGH: Scientifically Valid or Just Politically Correct?



    Patrick C. English, Esq.

    The Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather Jr debacle has led to an incredible amount of posturing and, as a result,
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    . This posturing has been under the guise of a campaign for a drug-free sport, something we all favor. But the
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    First, the best experts in the field report there is no good test for HGH. At present, there is no urine test that works. And Dr. Don H. Caitlin, head of the UCLA Olympic Analytical Lab and for many years one of the most knowledgeable experts in the area - possibly the most knowledgeable – has stated that he believes blood testing is impractical. He points out that,
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    In part, this is because the detection limit is short, about 24 hours. In other words, the athlete would have had to use HGH within approximately 24 hours of the test to actually be caught.

    Further, the one athlete who was “busted” for HGH after testing admitted to use.
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    . Dr. Peter Sonksen, a pioneer in the field of HGH testing, says “There’s very little new [data verifying the WADA test], and I think it would be quite easy for a lawyer to draw “cart and horses through it in Court.” This charge is echoed by epidemiologist Dr. Charles E. Yesalis of Penn State, who contends that the scientific data to back the testing protocols is insufficient to the point of being “almost criminal.”

    Dr. Caitlin has said flatly that the method of testing used by WADA “alone doesn’t work.
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    Further, anyone who has ever been involved in Olympic style testing knows its flaws and limitations. Blood tests, if done randomly, are exceedingly infrequent. Athletes who are subject to in-and-out-of-competition testing go years with no blood tests (though urine testing is another matter).

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    . As an example, spur of the moment activities must be reported to WADA, according to the rules, 24 hours in advance. If an athlete decides to go to the shore on a sunny day, to go to assist a friend, or any of the plethora of activities of which we all partake every week, it must be reported to WADA in advance. This is tough enough to do with college athletes, more or less captive on campuses and virtually impossible with professionals with normal lives.
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    . That brings us right back to the testing protocols. If HGH is detectable for only 24 hours, all an athlete needs to do is to arrange to be unavailable for testing the following day. Chances are overwhelmingly small that any test will be taken the following day. But if one is to be taken, the athlete can simply make himself unavailable that day without penalty.

    Further,
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    . The example of one Olympic level athlete is illustrative. Jessica Hardy, a swimmer, gave a urine sample on July 4, 2008. It was not until July 23 that she was notified of the failed drug test. She initially challenged the result and thus had the right to a hearing. That hearing began on August 1, 2008, when she withdrew her challenge. Thus it took approximately three weeks before she was even notified (resulting from the need to test the “B” sample) and four weeks before the matter was resolved. The Hardy matter involved a steroid with established scientific validity and an admission. If, as claimed by Dr. Sonksen there are flaws in the methodology for HGH testing, a legal challenge will take very considerably longer.

    Whether Jessica Hardy was allowed to compete or not, the Olympics were going to proceed and her situation had no impact on its promotion. However, the same is not true of a boxing promotion. We have seen far too many situations when results from an “A” sample and from a “B” sample do not correspond (thus both need to be tested) and even situations from reputable labs where contamination, later discovered, made results unreliable. This is why the due process of a hearing is necessary.
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    Drs. Caitlin, Sonksen and Yesalis are not advocates for abuse of drugs in sport. To the contrary, they are respected researchers who have done much to attempt to eliminate performance enhancing drugs in sport. Dr. Caitlin heads the most respected drug testing laboratory in the United States and developed the test which broke the Balco scandal. Dr. Sonksen is a fellow of the Royal Society of Physicians with some 315 scientific publications, many on this very topic. Dr. Yesalis co-authored the first comprehensive surveys of teen steroid use.

    Caitlin, Sonksen, and others are working on legitimate, more reliable tests for HGH. While it may appear politically correct and provide a good “sound bite” to jump on the bandwagon for drug-free sports,
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    Efforts should be toward developing tests that work and then implementing them; not in pretending that there are good and generally accepted scientifically valid testing techniques when there are not.


    Patrick C. English, Esq. is an attorney with the firm of Dines and English, L.L.C. He has handled numerous matters involving drug testing and drug testing protocols, both on behalf of athletes as well as defending testing protocols.
     
  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If anything it made Pac look even worse. Take the test or the speculation will remain.
     
  6. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    No, Manny Druguiao was not right.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    lol, i knew it was a matter of time before this 10 cent hustler came out of his shack. my feelings are really hurt that some country field hand thinks that nobody likes me, after all, im only here to find someone to like me. thats why i have 7000 posts in a year, lol. get a ****in job you lazy, shiftless, good for nothing sorry excuse for half a man.
    its funny that you think im racist because im as racist as bill cosby or chris rock. they like to tell the truth also and it bothers the hell out of mutts like you. they directed their comments at their own chickens while i include guys like charlie zelennoff in the same bunch as you and those like you.
    must be frustrating for you to think that all you can do is call me racist and pretend that i dont bother you because you know you cant prove that im a liar. i know you, 5 just like you try and hustle me for a dollar at the corner store every day. so you can keep putting up little emoticons so people wont think your shook while you keep crying that im racist for telling you some truths you dont like hearing.
    you and your fellow roaches like nallege need to get a job instead of posting 300 times a day on this board you ****in parasites.
     
  8. jessy

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    :lol::lol::lol::yep:yep:yep get these flhomos :yep
     
  9. Rudyard

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    We know *****...Blacks arent ****! blah blah blah! :lol::rofl SO tell me, whats my future hoe!

    Telling the truth about what??? You dont even know **** about me so how you gone tell me something about me? Thats why I laugh at ya bitchass, you're no better than the folks you ***** about! Why dont you do something about it!
     
  10. Rudyard

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    Tell that greasy motha****a to try a little harder!:rofl
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    lol, i got chicken george all shook.
     
  12. Rudyard

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    I dont give a **** what you got corny motha****a! Get at me when you can tell me something about myself hoe!:good
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    simmer down, pooty tang. i never said blacks werent ****. i got blacks in my family. they aint like you though, they are honorable, responsible and successful men and not two bit hustlers who think its cool to be a pimp.
     
  14. Rudyard

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    Go finish up ya videos hoe!

    At least you make a good internet soulja!:rofl Bitchass nirca!

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKG3IOVruEA[/ame]

    Just like the posts he post on here...Full of anger...Please dont hurt me amigo!:lol::rofl:lol::rofl:lol:
     
  15. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dont get how people can justify NOT taking a drug test esp with all of the athletes that have admitted to cheating.
     
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