I'm sorry, but Wlad beats Dave.

:verysad Are you trying to ruin my day......say it ain't so :verysad

Seriously though, I give Haye more chance than you do. I think Wlad represents the greater challenge of the Klits. Speed kills, Haye just has to find a way to get inside.

 

it could pan out like you say tbh, but i think booth and haye are intelligent enough to know what is required going into this fight, and will execute a perfect plan to nullify vlad with far improved head movement, doubling up on the jab to create space for haye's looping overhand right.
haye has shown us that he can run a game plan, as can vlad granted, but i feel this is the first time in a while vlad will have a live opponent in front of him who hasn't just turned up for a pay cheque

 

i think haye will try to make wlad come forward alot in this fight. if he can time his jab and slip we got a very different fight:thumbsup

 

I've always thought Haye beats both Klitschkos. I'm not one of the fanboys that thinks Haye is second coming. But I don't think Wlad has the style to beat Haye.
Anyone that thinks Haye is gonna go in and just throw bombs is being delusional. Haye will pick his moment and when he does I don't think Wlad will recover.

Just get the fight made.

 

Agreed. Every advantage is in Klitschko's favour. People talk about his chin but he's taken bigger punches than Haye has at heavyweight. Haye has never taken a big punch and he's been hurt by cruisers and light heavies. So is this really a factor thats in favour of Haye?

People talk about Haye's speed, but Klitschko's fast. Timing beats speed, Klitschko has timing and speed.

Haye has power, but so does Wlad. Wlad probably punches as hard if not harder than Lennox Lewis did for one punch power, Steward says so and I doubt he'd lie and some of his vicious one punch KO's would back that up when he lets them go. He's a harder puncher than David Haye is punch for punch, if they were Klitschko's right hands Ruiz would have been out early.

Klitschko's the better technician, the more skilled fighter, and has the more reliable defence. If Haye's reflexes fail he takes a punch. If Wlad's reflex to jump back fails he has his gloves as a second line of defence.

 

I don't think anybody has come up with a plausible gameplan for how Haye is getting past that jab. Ruiz and Monte Barrett had their successes with one punch against Haye and that was the jab when they pushed him back with it. So how exactly is Haye going to come forward and get past a great jab? My fear is he won't, he'll just use movement and then try and launch right hands from a distance. Wlad will see them and there is a good chance he'll get knocked down by a hard jab.

 

Wlad has enough power in his jab alone to hurt Haye if he lands flush. Haye has a punchers chance, that is it. To be honest, that chance is incredibly slim too because to get into range, he will need to take a punch and if Wlad unleashes that right on him it is goodnight Irene. Wlad will be cautious too. He will be disciplined and patient. Won't leave himself open to a Hayemaker. I give Haye a 5% chance of winning.

I made a similar post not long ago and I was accused of trolling.

 

The only argument you can make for Haye is that he can punch and Wlad has a dodgy chin. However, you can make the same argument the other way round - Wlad can seriously punch and Haye has an iffy chin. But Wlad has a lot more than that whereas for Haye there's not much else.

What I will say is, Haye is the biggest puncher Wlad has faced for ages. In my dreams this is like the Gurov fight lol but we all know that ain't happening.

 

Lol. Enough with the incisive dissection. At least let me enjoy the slim possibility of a Haye victory you kill-joys :kenny

 

Analysing any fight entirely from logic and past form only gets you so far. Haye's up against it, no doubt, but he has a style that can cause Wlad troubles. I think it will probably end badly for Haye, but whatever - there's no shame in that: Wlad's a good fighter.

But let's not send him to the gallows before he's been on trial. Many thought Mormeck would beat him. There were those that thought Ruiz would knock him out, same for Valuev. Now it's the same with Wlad - I'll just wait till I see how it turns out.

Imagine, a HW match up I care about.

 

Haye was a favoured to win all those fights by bookmakers. He won't be here. It's not really comparable to Valuev or Mormeck which were probably his biggest challenges to date. This is a far bigger uphill struggle. They were tough fights he was expected to win, this is a really tough fight where its actually difficult to see a way he can win.

 

:good