Official Pavlik VS. Martinez Poll--April 17th

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  1. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Well, I hope you're right. If he's planning on coming into the ring with the "I am going to knock this ******* out at all costs" attitude that he brought to his best performances, I think you probably will be. If he isn't hungry enough, doesn't show sufficient aggression and boxes too much, I'll be concerned.
     
  2. Pavlik is Champ

    Pavlik is Champ PDub is RUNNING scared Full Member

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    True, it will take some work, alot more work than if he fought Paul.:yep
     
  3. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    I might even put a little insurance bet on Martinez by decision.
     
  4. Hermit

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    Saw Kelly throw one 'hay maker' and miss against Rubio in the first round and in the open workout for Espino. Other than that, it is pretty much controlled aggression. I don't see him changing that.
     
  5. Hermit

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    I remember Scar being called "traitor" for saying it was Mayweather's fault the fight didn't happen. Don't make us resort to that!

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  6. ricardoparker93

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    I think the only one of the three who can be compared to Carl Froch is Kelly Pavlik... in the handspeed department. Martinez has v fast hands.
     
  7. Pavlik is Champ

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    Soon after Kelly Pavlik began training for his upcoming fight against Sergio Martinez, he was asked whether it was the biggest fight of his career.

    He shooks his head.

    “I look at it as a very important fight,” he said. “I don’t think it’s a career-defining fight.”

    Saturday’s bout in Atlantic City may not be the biggest of his career, but it’s the most important title defense of his 21‚Ñ2-year reign as middleweight champion.

    Although he’s already defended his title three times, none of those opponents carried the same weight in the boxing world that Martinez does. A convincing win in front of a nationwide HBO audience would provide Pavlik with his biggest win since his back-to-back victories over Jermain Taylor in 2007-08.

    “This is one of the most important middleweight championship fights in a long time,” said Top Rank Boxing chairman Bob Arum, Pavlik’s promoter. “I am convinced beyond any measure that we’ll see the old Kelly Pavlik against Martinez.

    “As soon as we see that, and as soon as the public sees that thanks to the huge HBO audience, he’ll be back on top and people will be clamoring for his next fight.

    “People love to see knockout fighters.”

    Pavlik’s reign began in September 2007 with a seventh-round knockout of champion Taylor. Although Pavlik won a rematch with Taylor the following February — a unanimous decision above the middleweight limit — and has since won three title defenses by knockout, Taylor’s former promoter, Lou DiBella, hasn’t seen the same fighter.

    “I haven’t seen him look very good since the Taylor fight,” said DiBella, who now promoters Martinez. “With that being said, I know he’s had health issues and other issues.

    “There’s reason to think we’ll get a pretty good Kelly Pavlik on April 17. Whether he’ll go back to the form we saw right in the middle of his prime, we’re going to find out.”

    Pavlik (36-1, 32 KOs), for his part, knows the stakes. He also knows how fickle public perception can be. He was relatively unknown before 2007, then exploded in popularity that year. Now the pendulum has swung back a bit.

    “There’s definitely a little pressure but that’s there in any fight,” said Pavlik, who turned 28 on April 4. “My last fight [against Miguel Espino in December], I was coming off a staph infection against a lesser name and there was a lot of pressure to look good.

    “The main thing I’ve got to focus on is going in there and taking care of business and following the game plan. If I do that, everything else will fall into place.”

    The 35-year-old Martinez (44-2-2, 24 KOs) is coming off a majority decision loss to Paul Williams. It was his first loss in almost 10 years — he was knocked out by Antonio Margarito in February 2000 — and many observers, including Pavlik, felt he won the fight.

    A native of Buenos Aires, Argentina, Martinez was a standout cyclist and soccer player growing up and got a late start in boxing. He’s known for his fitness, his footwork and — in DiBella’s words — his “movie star good looks.”

    “This is a kid that, if he wins the fight, he could really become a superstar,” DiBella said. “The women that are around Sergio would blow your mind. He’s dated starlets and models and all that kind of stuff.

    “He knows what this fight means to him.”

    A southpaw, Martinez fights an unconventional style, throwing punches from a variety of angles. But the 5-foot-11, former welterweight hasn’t fought many middleweight bouts and will be at a size — and power — disadvantage against the 6-2 1/2 Pavlik. DiBella even went so far as to compare Martinez-Pavlik to David and Goliath.

    “Kelly is a much bigger man,” DiBella said. “I think if Kelly wins, he’s going to catch him.

    “It’s a battling of contrasting styles. I don’t think it can help but be a good fight.”

    Although Pavlik may not draw the 10,000-plus fans that saw him win the title against Taylor, “Pavlik Nation” should bring several thousand back to Boardwalk Hall. This is Pavlik’s fourth fight in Atlantic City, where he has replaced Arturo Gatti as the city’s biggest boxing draw.

    Martinez, meanwhile, is well-known in boxing circles but is not a big draw to casual fans. DiBella believes his fighter can draw 1,000 fans, many of them Hispanic, but “obviously, I still think it’s Kelly’s room.”

    With the title — and both boxers’ legacy — at stake, both sides are hoping the fight, not one fighter, will be the biggest draw.

    “It’s a big fight,” Pavlik said. “I know he’s a dangerous fighter making a name for himself right now.

    “I need to dominate and get back on track.”
     
  8. Hermit

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    Pavlik, who trained in his familiar haunt of Youngstown, Ohio, for this fight, said he got quality sparring from the likes of Jesus Gonzalez and Austin Trout.

    "Those guys are fast, especially in sparring," said Pavlik. "I mean, they’re unbelievably fast and plus you’re bringing them in, four rounds with one, the next four rounds with another guy. And also, they punch a little harder. They sit down and they pivot on their foot and they turn that left hand over, where I haven’t seen that from Martinez."

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  9. itrymariti

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    :lol: It'll make it even sweeter when Martinez ends up on his back. That and all the fun we can have with those who predicted a Martinez KO...
     
  10. Hermit

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    Seriously, if you are betting 'real money' and not vCash ya gotta do what ya gotta do. Last I looked the vCash was still flowing in on Pavlik, not Martinez. These guys can't even bring themselves to risk that! :patsch
     
  11. itrymariti

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    I was talking vCash, lol. I've heard of people who bet against who they're supporting so either way they have something to cheer about. I was more thinking of playing the odds...

    My primary worry at the moment is just finding somewhere to watch this ****.
     
  12. booradley

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    I NEVER bet against my boys NO MATTER WHAT! You could put Paulie Mallinaggi in against Godzilla, and I still wouldn't put a penny on Zilla!
     
  13. Hermit

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    How about AC? NBA will be there so you can do a personal bet with him to pay for the trip. Problem solved and you get to live high courtesy of NBA. It don't get no better than that. :yep
     
  14. NeckBreaknAiken

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    **** You, ******!:lol:


    I will be spending my money on craps, roulette wheel, and hookers.:yep


    I don't have time for dumb ****.:bart
     
  15. booradley

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    I hope you lose all your money, and catch an STD!