The USA vs. Europe Rivalry. Who's really winning?

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  1. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tell me how the book is ive never read that account. If i remember at the time the army blamed Mcnab aswell and Mcnab blamed them for faulty stuff and dropping in wrong place.
     
  2. Talivar

    Talivar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population[/ame]

    For a population vs population chart. How the above poster thinks USA population crushes europes i dont know. And remeber we talking North america in all the arguments.
     
  3. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    so you want to claim British commonwealth countries and even countries that still use the british flag? hey....even Hawaii still have the british flag upon it. Ive never been Hawaii...but I saw a documentary where they were claiming they were Hawaiian 1st, British 2nd and American 3rd...and this is supposedly one of your 'united states'

    I count at least 6 uk territories there, even countires such as Antigua (ex-british territory) are loyal to the crown, my mum has a place there, she practiaclly uses it as a second home.
     
  4. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    WTF? I thought you guys argue about boxing?

    I guess USA gets the upperhand today, Americans televise boxing really well, not to mention great venues. Many non-Americans fight in the US to gain exposure, even amateur Cubans defect to US just to fight in the pros.
     
  5. Arran

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    great venus? really? MSG and vegas have history, they arnt great venues, the fight venue in texas the other week was far superior. The MEN/Millenium stadium/Wembley/O2 are all superior to vegas and MSG's 15k attendences. Why a 50-80k stadium isnt built on the Vegas strip is beyond me.
     
  6. Uncle Oden

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    you just said MSG isn't a great venue?

    Lay off the crackpipe dumbass!!
     
  7. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    have history, yes, great venues...not really. As a boxer I would love to fight thier due to the history....but a great venue for atmosphere...no. Would Ali V Frazier be the same fight today had it been at the MSG? nope.
     
  8. Uncle Oden

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    have you ever been to MSG? For a big fight, especially one involving fighters the locals care about, such as Trinidad, the atmosphere is insane.

    Not so much when you put a fight like Calzaghe-Jones or Klitschko-Brock there.

    Even if you haven't been there, the atmosphere for big fights should translate onto television. Cotto-Judah was wild.
     
  9. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You said you wanted Europe, that means you get all of the countries listed as being part of Europe, North America gets all of the countries listed as North America, We don't claim Guam or American Samoa in this estimate so you don't get to claim the Falklands. If it isn't part of the Europe it doesn't count, just like if it isn't part of North America it doesn't count.

    So you aren't so confident in Europe's superior fighters, are you?
     
  10. Arran

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    So does that mean we get Western Russia?
     
  11. Exposed

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    HTTP wasn't invented by the British. You must be referring to Tim Berners-Lee, who took EXISTING technologies like TCP and hypertext to lay the groundwork for routing protocols. I guess this is your half-assed way to try to portray the British invented the internet? Besides, the Swedes were the ones who contributed more to the modern day Internet than the Brits. Fortunately, revisionist history like yours willl never get very far in any halfway competent computer class.

    The british didn't invent the jet engine either. The concept of the jet engine dated Pre-WWI (first working demonstration by a Norwegian engineer), and it was the Germans that proved to have the better designs post-WWII.

    The telephone? Are you daft? Alexander Graham Bell invented the first working telephone. As for mobile phones, Dr. Martin Cooper (born in Chicago) is credited as the inventor of the cell phone.

    Just looking at the rest of your list just shows much ignorance. I suppose you thought just spouting out names would do you well, and assumed no one would point out how full of **** you are?

    Take the television for example. It was NOT a British invention. In fact, ideas for the "television" was a series of competing and completely different designs within the same time period. The british design was a mechanical set of spinning disks that had to be hand cranked. The American design was an electronic tube based set. Guess which one was the father of modern day televisions (prior to LCD's) and rightfully credited as the inventor?

    I could tear up the rest of your list, but I think you get the point by now. :lol:
     
  12. Arran

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    Alexander Graham Bell - Scottish
    Sir Frank Whittle - Jet Engine

    You claim the TV isnt british, in which case the airplane and lightbulb arnt american.

    i guess you missed my ''Calzaghe will annihilate Lacy'' thead, it was quite epic.
     
  13. Exposed

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    With that logic, Lennox Lewis obviously isn't British. He's Jamaican. Scratch his accomplishments as all Jamaican instead of British.

    Bell was a naturalized U.S. Citizen. Studied and set up shop in Boston Massachusetts. Formed Bell Laboratories. Don't be upset if he didn't credit the telephone as a British invention just because he was born in Scotland.

    You see that comparison above? You can't have it both ways.

    Whittle acknowledged himself that he wasn't the creator of the jet engine (he admitted Dr. Hans Von Ohain invented it as well). Of course, this is in reference to the turbojet, what I stated above regarding jet engines still hold true.

    And the television is most definitely not a British invention. Check most reputable sources, please. Logain's design had absolutely nothing to do with the modern day television, unless you thought the television was going to be all viewmasters? The american design (electron gun, tubes) was completely different to Logain's and is rightfully credited as the first.

    Don't hide your posts about Lacy Calzaghe, you definitely had the jitters the day before the fight concerning Lacy's overwhelming odds, as evidenced by your posts. Don't make me dig them up. :lol:
     
  14. HEADBANGER

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    dig those calzaghe v lacy pre fight posts up, i want to see the bull**** you americans were talking before that fight.
     
  15. Arran

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    no, i dont understand the lewis thing? He was born in Britain, lived here until 12 then moved to Canada, he fought as a pro in Britain, and always claimed to be british.

    Bell was fully born and raised in britain, his first experiments with sound and voice were done in Britain, he died in Canada, becoming a US citizen doesnt make him american....infact even real black americans dont get called american instead they get the title ''african americans''.

    if the tv isnt british, the lightbulb isnt american, today you use long lasting lightbulbs do you not? british

    today you fly by engine not steam (wright brothers) do you not? Now you can claim that somebody else invented the jet engine, but type in jet engine to your search engine, see whos name comes up.

    As for the tv, if not British then it goes to germany or hungary...

    Dont hide my posts about Calzaghe v Lacy? I was the one laughed at pre fight for my ''calzaghe will annihilate Lacy'' thread, I made a joke about Lacy being ''English'' not welsh as you put it because he was wearing an England shirt, you americans have trouble with irony and sarcasm I know, but I would hardly create that thread or bet on calzaghe if i wasnt confident. I wish we could pull it back up to own you, i think we lost it in a crash though. If you can find it, please do, your as bad as the americans on here who dont get the Haye humour and think him and Booth are being serious (fighting in the back garden etc etc).....go ahead, pull it up if you can. (you know england and wales are two different countries right?)