floyd will beat pacquiao rather handily IMO. reason inside. post your analysis.

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  1. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    right here we go. when the fight happens eventually we'll bump this **** straight up.

    floyd will go down as one of the best boxers p4p, and manny pacquiao will be rated very highly aswell. we got two very special fighters here who hopefully will end up fighting eachother. now i think some people don't actually realise how special these two boxers really are, but let me tell you right now, they'll both be talked about in many years to come, they're that good.

    my opinion is that the fight won't live up to the expectation, and might be more one sided than many would like to believe. the problem is this, floyd is the best counter puncher in the world, and manny pacquiao has problems with counter punchers. manny throws a lot of straight punches, and i see him missing those sort of punches, getting frustrated, and then getting picked off with counters even when floyd is on the ropes. manny will then be advised to go to the body as he's missing the head punches, but floyd will be hitting him with uppercuts. it's just a fight that style wise favours floyd. top fighters like cotto had problems with pacquio's workrate and speed, the problem is these fighters aren't defensive wizards, and they're not as fast as manny pacquiao. the workrate of manny pacquiao will decline throughout the fight with floyd due to the simple reason is that he'll be getting caught more often than he's used to and therfore will naturally slow down due to being more cautious. it's a fight where i expect a U/D win for floyd or maybe even a stoppage.

    i expect a tougher fight for floyd against shane than against pacquiao. the punch floyd will have to watch out for is that right hand that shane will be looking to go over the top shoulder roll of floyd. that punch can do damage. i expect shane to be a very good fight for floyd.
     
  2. _King_

    _King_ drunken master Full Member

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  3. crimson

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  4. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    post your analyis. i'll guarantee you i'll be right. i'm never wrong.
     
  5. _King_

    _King_ drunken master Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweathers dick comes out your mouth...

    ...Floyd Mayweather's dick goes back into your mouth!
     
  6. GrCh

    GrCh Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd will box circles around Pac put simply.. I don't see Floyd having any problem in turning the fight into the boxing clinic he wants it to be early. His jab will be longer and quicker then Pac's, and his combination of defense and counter punching will be too discouraging for Pac. I think Floyd stops him late after walking Pac down much of the fight and chopping away at his body, working his way up top.

    Pac can punch though, anything could happen
     
  7. danieljenkins

    danieljenkins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think i floyd could handle manny with ease. im not saying manny aiant a great fighter but floyd will box his head off !
     
  8. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here's something the Floydettes never seem to notice:

    Marquez had success against Manny because he was prepared to engage with Manny and back him up. Floyd does not do that until he knows the other guy can't do anything against him.

    Floyd struggles more with southpaws. He tends to clam up against combination punchers and go into a shell.

    So, you've now got three flaws which are things Manny can exploit spades.

    What Floyd has that will trouble Manny is a killer straight right, incredible accuracy and an under-rated body attack. He uses that to knock the life out of marauding foes with speed and Manny isn't that strong to the body. Cotto definitely stung him a few times.

    But here's the main issues - Manny stayed inside and just waited for his moment. Waited until Cotto opened up a little too long and then hammered him. Floyd would need to run the risk of pot-shotting against a guy with incredible output.

    For Manny, that occasional wildness could see him getting caught by the left hook or a straight right coming in.

    It's the early rounds that make this fight. Will Mayweather take control earlier than normal in his recent fights, or will Manny put enough hurt on him to make the final half of the fight a brutal war of attrition?
     
  9. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Marquez and Mayweather are two entirely different coutner-punchers.
     
  10. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Excellent post. I agree that Shane will be a harder fight for PBF than Pac will be.
     
  11. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    You lose all credibility for lack of capitalization where it's supposed to be.
     
  12. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really don't know who to pick.

    I think Pac's pressure will cause Floyd some problems but it depends on how much pressure Pac can put on him and a lot of this will be down to if Floyd can gain Pac's respect with regard to his power.

    If he can't then Pac could just keep walking him down and unloading and he could stand a good chance on winning if he goes about it the right way and Floyd has trouble countering the blitz coming his way.

    However, if Pac is hit hard and often enough early on as hes coming in with Floyds quick shots it could make him tentative and no one beats Floyd fighting at range and occasionally and tentatively trying to get inside.

    I think the Floyd-Mosley fight could give us a bit of an indication on how the Floyd-Pac fight may go. Im not saying Pac and Mosley are the same, but i believe Mosley will put Floyd under more pressure than he has been under for quite some time and if Floyd has problems with Mosleys pressure and power then he could well have problems with Pacs pressure.
     
  13. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    God is that you?
     
  14. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There will be nothing easy in facing Manny....even if it is Floyd we are talking about. He's never faced a guy a great as Manny and vise versa....Manny hasn't faced anyone as SKILLED as Floyd.....Manny has face many GREAT boxers in his day.

    The style match up is a problem on both sides of the fence.....Floyd has trouble with guys that are as fast or faster than him, has issues with southpaws and has issues with pressure.

    Manny has trouble with counter punchers and those who fight on the outside with speed, accuracy and movement. Which makes this match up so intriguing and hard to call.

    I see it this way. Floyd by all logic should win....he's the bigger man...he's one of the most skilled boxers ever and he's a counter puncher. BUT....Floyd is for the most part ultra confident and operates at this level partially by building himself up to the point where his confidence is seeping through his pours.

    I've never seen Floyd show any concern or reservations about facing anyone....until Manny that is. Even before Manny beat Cotto I thought Floyd would be able to beat Manny in a very close and hard fight...his success would lie within his style. He's cautious and defensive, but very accurate in counter punching...I thought the reach and movement/footwork would allow Floyd ot avoid the trenches where Manny would be able to win his rounds. I just didn't think he'd be able to do that enough to outpoint Floyd

    With the way Floyd has been acting.....actually giving Manny props for being a great fighter although doing it in a way suggesting he's only great b/c of Roids, PEDs or A SIDE OF MEFF **** (whatever that is).....he still showed weakness, concern and reservations. Out of the norm for a guy like Floyd.

    Showing that side of him when talknig about Manny indicates to me that Manny's style and pressure will bust pipes in the fight....IF if comes off. I got Manny winning a Decision by out working and being able to shut Floyd's offense down by intelligent pressure and the ability to off set Floyd with his spuratic rythm that will be hard for Floyd to anticipate.

    Manny by UD.
     
  15. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i think we all know it's not hard to put capitals where they're supposed to be unless you're dumb as ****, but i'm at work, and i'm rushing, so no, i'm not going to waste my time with capitals. if you can't read my post due to me not using capitals, then obviously something is wrong with you.