"Sugar" Shane Mosley: Another Over rated flim flam career

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  1. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    Sweet ****ing jeebus......
     
  2. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hof because of what?

    he was an olympian and he beat oscar de la hoya?

    he fought vargas in 2 of his last 3 fights of his career... SHOT
    he used roids against oscar.... CHEATED
    lost to winky twice & probably roided for those fights
    lost to forrest twice
    lost to cotto (arguably)
    barely beat a mayorga who oscar startched in 6.... it took shane 12 and a buzzard beating ko.. if it wasn't for the kd's & mayorgas horrible training habits he probably would ahve won this fight

    cmon now.... he don't suck but he sure as hell is over rated... not a doubt about that
     
  3. El Puma

    El Puma between rage and serenity Full Member

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    I stopped reading here.....:-(
     
  4. bandido

    bandido The Black Bandit Full Member

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    so who's not overrated these days?
     
  5. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    not only that but of his like 25-30 fights at 135

    he has only 1 relevant fight and thats being generous .. he rode on oscars coat tails his whole career and fell a bit shorter everytime....

    I expect the same thing to happen to mayweather...

    every result oscar had... shane had as well except it took him way longer.... same thing will happen with floyd
     
  6. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    pacquiao is legit
    floyd is legit
    roy is legit


    bhop is still over rated in my eyes.... thats a whole other thread

    cotto is ok in his own rights.... over rated in the general scheme of things... would have gotten beat up against floyd... pac did it for him tho

    the klitsko's are pretty good in their own right as well.... their division sucks a huge ***** but they will never be in danger of losin


    ain't to many real deal fighters walking around but the first 3 I listed are about the only ones.... everyone else either is a product of great marketing or were never that good to begin with
     
  7. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well by using your logic SP550 (which is a good sampler by the way), I would say Floyd and Pac ain't much better and SUCK as well.
     
  8. boy-wonder

    boy-wonder Active Member Full Member

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    what about the quality of how he fights.

    vicoius body punchning, rapid combinations, head movement. athleticism.


    what about the fact that he KO percentage is massively high, showing that he is a level above the B fighters he was against.

    mixed results against tough opponents, but he had to move up in weight to do and fought bigger men his whole career.

    i understand your points, but its true in someways but in many other ways your points are truly superficial.

    people respect mosely bc they know it is hard as **** to accomplish what he has done.

    He may not be all time great yet, but he is certainly one of the greatest in his era.

    You can blame him for losing to winky but he was truly the smaller man in that fihgt against a high caliber opponent.

    You can blame him for losing to cotto. no excuses, but its still impressive for 36 year old fighters to keep at this level at his stage in his career.

    Either the glass is half empty or half full with shane. Knnowing this, he is trying to fight mayweather and pac to clear up his legacy. Shane must prove his worth in the ring.
     
  9. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
     
  10. boy-wonder

    boy-wonder Active Member Full Member

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    i think its sad that so many fans call various fighters overrated for various reasons.


    people say the same **** about RJJ, Calzaghe, Floyd, Shane, Oscar.

    But even the all time greats has fought their share of bums that is how you separate the A class from the B class.

    Once u identify who is in the A class, the best can fight the best to ascend to a higher level of greatness.

    I think too many people are quick to call people overrated mores quickly then receiving the accolades that these guys have to fight to for.....

    and a lot of the guys who called fighters overhyped can appreciate how hard the fight game is...
     
  11. Mrtibbs

    Mrtibbs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its easy to pick holes in anyones record. too easy.

    IMO If he wasnt on roids i would say he was up there. But with all this roid crap you really have to take away any fight which he might have been using roids at. I honestly cant make a decision as to where i view him because of this. May first will give me more indication.
     
  12. boy-wonder

    boy-wonder Active Member Full Member

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    understood, as per the testimony it was just for the delahoya 2. unless people want to accuse him for lying in his testimony as well, that is something i cant speak on. However, it was just for that one fight as per the testimony.
     
  13. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The true measurement of great skill is moving up in weight... any bum can sit around at 1 weight their entire career and whoop on scrubs.. moving up is the greatest test and floyd, pac & roy passes these tests

    my point is this though... look at sam peter or something like that... athletic powerful but who is he beating? then when he steps up to the upper echelon it doesn't matter because they lose

    the only reason shane was kept around is because he is getting a media push....
     
  14. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    What the ****??