Floyd Keeps Saying There's no "Blueprint" to beat him...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Stonehands89, Apr 15, 2010.

  1. southpaw jab

    southpaw jab Guest

    I stop reading the first article the moment I read "undefeated in 39 fights, including one gift decision". The moment you show bias is the moment you lose jounalistic creditability in my book. Besides, everyone knows Floyd beat J.L. Castillo in BOTH fights. He just had to do it the first time around with a torn rotator cuff. There is no blueprint to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. because nobody has beaten Mayweather yet. When somebody does, that will be the blueprint.
     
  2. 1_man_army

    1_man_army The Knockout King Full Member

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    Now you're just being silly. In the first fight Castillo did more than enough to get a win, even the compubox numbers show that he landed more punches and had a higher connect percentage. Now you can argue that that was caused by the rotator cuff but he really was beaten regardless of what the judges decided.

    Floyd did well to win the second fight, I won't take that from him but he was beaten by Castillo.
     
  3. Ted Spoon

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    Splitting hairs never gets you any closer to deciphering the truth because any basic truths that are initially underlined get spliced into endless sub-headings of irrelevance. This is not to debunk the fine conversations threads like this can spawn but the best thing that can be said is when it comes to Floyd's supposed blueprint, nobody has successfully carried it out yet.

    Floyd has not been beaten because he is still an unknown quantity. The man may still be getting better and if the agenda is to see Floyd fail to satisfy ones argument it will only metamorphosis into more loose theories when he triumphs.

    We can insist that the first Castillo decision should have fallen into Jose's lap, but what we cannot do is seriously wager on its technical content because one of the fighters was injured. In the rematch Ted Spoon saw Floyd create more space and control his opponent.

    His mouth has generated a lengthy queue of detractors but they have yet to hold him up on faulting in the ring.

    Having defended Floyd a little again…his comments about greats like Robinson are completely silly in all their inane audacity.
     
  4. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Putting a post in bold print contributes nothing to its credibility.

    Your reasoning is a facsimile of Floyd's, and just as faulty. Do you know what a blueprint is? Should architects create them after the builders have completed construction?
     
  5. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every fighter can be beaten, Ted, you know that. And every fighter has foils and you know that too. Hashing out the finer points of tactics and strategy is something too few trainers do these days -and that is a problem that reflects the poor quality of the vast majority of trainers today. Their idea of strategy is expletives in the corner.

    Is Floyd great? I suspect that he is. But I don't rightly know and neither do you because he has avoided fighting those who would make him great. I am of the opinion that Shane will test what appears to be gold in fire.

    If he beats Shane, I'm a believer.
     
  6. McGrain

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    Haters gonna hate :lol: I'll get back to you tomorrow Stonie, little oiled right now.
     
  7. horst

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    I agree with more or less every word of this superb article.

    However, a 38 year old Shane Mosley is not the man for the job, not at all. To anyone who feels their rationality wavering in the excitement leading up to the big fight and starts to feel like Shane could do it, please stick Cotto vs Mosley in the DVD player. It will wilt your fledgling hope faster than finding your date has a large, hairy pair of testicles. For one thing, Shane most certainly does not have the stamina for this task.
     
  8. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    GAAAAAH! Does anyone need that visual?!
     
  9. horst

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    :lol: OK, apologies for that one. Rather grotesque.

    I'm checking out the link you sent me now...
     
  10. horst

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    Another cracking article/essay. That dude is so on the "money" about so many things. I almost find myself daring to dream of a victorious Shane...


    ...and then I see him again, exhausted and being outjabbed and outboxed by Miguel Cotto. The grim, disappointing reality is inescapable - for me at least.
     
  11. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, and he's always right. Even when he's wrong he's right.

    However, if Jack Mosley isn't telling fairy tales, his conditioning won't be a factor now that his nose is fixed. And here's a fierce competitor who is fighting for legacy... he won't go gently.
     
  12. horst

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    :lol: I didn't realize it was yourself who was the scribe! Well done amigo, you do have a flair with the old keyboard for sure!

    I dearly, dearly hope Jack is right. If Shane pulls this off, I may very well spontaneously combust with sheer delight!
     
  13. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I honestly don't think anyone at 147 can carry out the blueprint whatever it is.
     
  14. I'm truly starting to believe Mosley can do it. Stone Hands, your article eloquently writes the same thing I've been saying all along. That Mayweather has such brilliant defense mechanisms to cope with a fragile core. If you find a mature enough fighter to expose Floyd for who he is inside the ring, you will open pandoras box. He'll be like a deer in the headlights.

    You don't play by his rules, he's made and perfected them to control the situation. Did you see the look on his face when Mosley called him out unexpectedly after the JMM fight? He went limp until he could adapt.

    This is war, and that type of insecurity will be exposed by bad behaviour, rough bully techniques and no heed to Mayweathers leading nature. Nazim and Bernard will no doubt be inside Mosleys ear in how you can beat Mayweather.
     
  15. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Historywise or these days?