Hermit's props to Martinez.

Mr. HU · Apr 17, 2010

I don't usually push pie in MF'ers face but to hell with you Kermit!!!!!! No one needs to hear your BS!!!! Why don't you tell everyone that Pavlik could barely put 4K in a stadium that seats 10K!!!

itrymariti · Apr 17, 2010

aceshigh said: ↑

Time for you to get a job Hermit, you douchebag.

No more 16 hour days on here, posting about how awesome Pavlik and Loew are, and growing your famous ignore list for you.
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:-( Classless idiot.

aceshigh · Apr 17, 2010

Hermit doesn't care about Argentinean people!

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cuchulain · Apr 17, 2010

zoomie said: ↑

trying to make excuses how pathetic :verysad
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sdsfinest22 said: ↑

Hermit...just leave esb...ive exposed ur arguments in the past..tonight proved why kp cant deal with quicker more skilled boxers who are confident..ur boy is not the same fighter that fought jt...told u..now shhhh...
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aceshigh said: ↑

Time for you to get a job Hermit, you douchebag.

No more 16 hour days on here, posting about how awesome Pavlik and Loew are, and growing your famous ignore list for you.

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Mr. HU said: ↑

I don't usually push pie in MF'ers face but to hell with you Kermit!!!!!! No one needs to hear your BS!!!! Why don't you tell everyone that Pavlik could barely put 4K in a stadium that seats 10K!!!
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Two Shakes said: ↑

Ain't that the truth !! Hermit you are bordering on scarey now with your delusional obsession with Kelly.No matter what happens you find an excuse to make up for any shortcomings in Pavliks ability.
Face facts,he really isn't that good,his days of beating up on little guys are done,and should he be silly enough to move to SMW he'll not only be schooled,but could be seriously hurt.
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You boys need to leave the Hermit alone.

He has manned up (mostly) and faced reality.

Takes a bit of nerve.

And Hermit needs to ban himself from any Pavlik posts for at least two months.

No excuses, no analyses, no kudos, no gripes. Just nothing in regard to Pavlik.

Pavlik's post fight interview was a class act without excuses.

Time for Kelly to vacate the division and for everyone else to move on.

I hope Boo is still alive and kickin'

A month of daily therapy and he should be right as rain.

Thom · Apr 17, 2010

Hermit said: ↑

At the last minute I got a chance to go to Atlantic City to see the fight. Props to Martinez. He did what he had to do. Seeing a fight from the cheap seats might be good atmosphere but hard to tell what is going on sometimes.

I'm glad that Martinez has will have the lineal title at least. We still have that at the middle weight division and that is always a good thing.

When I get home I'll have to get a copy of the fight and watch it so I can get a better idea of what went on. Kelly did seem to start changing the tide before it shifted back.

I have limited access to the net. I will say this. I expect Kelly to move to SMW. He came dangerously close to losing the title on the scale. I was at the weigh in and you could see he was still 'glistening' when he came in. I overheard two people from his camp talking and they thought he would vacate his titles on the scale. If you watch the weigh in, watch Jack and some of Kelly's people on stage after the weight is announced. They celebrate like they had just won the fight. That is how close it was.

I'm not saying this to make excuses. Props to Martinez. A fighter's weight problem is part of the game. I've said numerous times that I think previous day weigh ins should be eliminated. I have been consistent on that point. I am just 'reporting' on what I saw and why I think that Kelly should move up and let Marinez and Williams duel it out for the MW belts.

I'm on a 'motel machine' so I don't know how much longer I can monopolize it.

Again, props to Martinez.
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Nice summation. You're one of the few classy posters on this site. :good

Fan88 · Apr 18, 2010

Kelly was turning the tide around midrounds but then the Martinez left that opened that nasty gash over Pavlik's eye took the momentum from him.

Rudyard · Apr 18, 2010

Hermit said: ↑

At the last minute I got a chance to go to Atlantic City to see the fight. Props to Martinez. He did what he had to do. Seeing a fight from the cheap seats might be good atmosphere but hard to tell what is going on sometimes.

I'm glad that Martinez has will have the lineal title at least. We still have that at the middle weight division and that is always a good thing.

When I get home I'll have to get a copy of the fight and watch it so I can get a better idea of what went on. Kelly did seem to start changing the tide before it shifted back.

I have limited access to the net. I will say this. I expect Kelly to move to SMW. He came dangerously close to losing the title on the scale. I was at the weigh in and you could see he was still 'glistening' when he came in. I overheard two people from his camp talking and they thought he would vacate his titles on the scale. If you watch the weigh in, watch Jack and some of Kelly's people on stage after the weight is announced. They celebrate like they had just won the fight. That is how close it was.

I'm not saying this to make excuses. Props to Martinez. A fighter's weight problem is part of the game. I've said numerous times that I think previous day weigh ins should be eliminated. I have been consistent on that point. I am just 'reporting' on what I saw and why I think that Kelly should move up and let Marinez and Williams duel it out for the MW belts.

I'm on a 'motel machine' so I don't know how much longer I can monopolize it.

Again, props to Martinez.
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Pure class in my book!:good

DOM5153 · Apr 18, 2010

im Vpoor lol

Farmboxer · Apr 18, 2010

Martinez beat the crap out of Williams without time to train, imagine if Martinez had had time to have trained for that fight. Martinez had time to train for Pavlik.

Jeff Young · Apr 18, 2010

futonrevolution said: ↑

(I was going to pm this, but got lazy.)

The cheap seats in the ballroom there are awesome, though; if you jump, you land in the ring. I'm really sorry I couldn't be there in person; I didn't know you'd be there, but it's pretty easy to figure out if I'm in the crowd.

If you feel ambivalent about the weight issue... just wait until you hear Manny Steward in the commentary.

In the middle rounds (but much too late to do the trick), Pavlik took Martinez's hook away and seemed confident for three rounds. The problem was that his left eye was a problem from pretty much the very first real exchange. When Martinez stepped up huge in aggression, Pavlik's right eye and rhythm were smashed to bits. On tv, at least, it was pretty clear that he couldn't see at all; the only thing he could reliably block, at that point, were straight right hands.

It felt like the corner didn't even try to keep the right eye contained. There has to be some serious changes with his team and I can't say if anyone's willing to do that.

Maravilla had a complete corner, and it showed.
The Ghost had a terrible corner, and it showed.
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Bob Arum knows his ****....I expect him to sit down and tell KP, he needs to make some changes....

ashley · Apr 18, 2010

Bob Arum has 2 choices for Pavs fight.....Martinez and Mundine...guess he should have picked Mundine :rofl

gyll · Apr 18, 2010

Froch, Kessler, Abraham, possibly Brinkley...all these guys would be great fights for Kelly at SMW. Looking forward to it if he does make the jump.

ricardoparker93 · Apr 18, 2010

yeah fair play for admitting martinez was better... where is BooRadley though... ha

bodhi · Apr 18, 2010

Hermit said: ↑

At the last minute I got a chance to go to Atlantic City to see the fight. Props to Martinez. He did what he had to do. Seeing a fight from the cheap seats might be good atmosphere but hard to tell what is going on sometimes.

I'm glad that Martinez has will have the lineal title at least. We still have that at the middle weight division and that is always a good thing.

When I get home I'll have to get a copy of the fight and watch it so I can get a better idea of what went on. Kelly did seem to start changing the tide before it shifted back.

I have limited access to the net. I will say this. I expect Kelly to move to SMW. He came dangerously close to losing the title on the scale. I was at the weigh in and you could see he was still 'glistening' when he came in. I overheard two people from his camp talking and they thought he would vacate his titles on the scale. If you watch the weigh in, watch Jack and some of Kelly's people on stage after the weight is announced. They celebrate like they had just won the fight. That is how close it was.

I'm not saying this to make excuses. Props to Martinez. A fighter's weight problem is part of the game. I've said numerous times that I think previous day weigh ins should be eliminated. I have been consistent on that point. I am just 'reporting' on what I saw and why I think that Kelly should move up and let Marinez and Williams duel it out for the MW belts.

I'm on a 'motel machine' so I don't know how much longer I can monopolize it.

Again, props to Martinez.
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I never had much respect for you. I do have now. Good man.

TerryESB · Apr 18, 2010

Pavlik! You move up to SMW!! You are going to have to deal with Froch and he will smash what is left of your career.

Sergio Garcia isn't any good, he couldn't beat Cintron. He lost to Williams. He hasn't won a fight since 10-04-2008, I don't even know how he got a MW title shot?

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