3 Things Kelly Pavlik Should Think About/Do Following Martinez Loss

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  1. PFG

    PFG Active Member Full Member

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    Pavlik should move up in weight. If the reported weight on fight day was true, he really should move up.

    178 is borderline SMW, even for that division, it's a lot.
     
    PFG, Apr 18, 2010
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  2. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Out of that list....He has a shot to beat froch imo, but i favor froch.....

    He would lose to kessler, ward, dirrell, and bute.....

    He looks great against andrade...

    I think its 50/50 against AA
     
    Jeff Young, Apr 18, 2010
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  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    AA would knock him out.
     
    Xplosive, Apr 18, 2010
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  4. clyde

    clyde Boxing Addict Full Member

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    4. apologise to Stovepipe and booradley.
     
    clyde, Apr 18, 2010
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  5. Smazz20

    Smazz20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  6. pne buz

    pne buz Active Member Full Member

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    He just needs to stay away from good fighters like Khan does
     
    pne buz, Apr 18, 2010
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  7. Killer Instinct

    Killer Instinct Be formless, shapeless... Full Member

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    Learn how to throw an effective left hook so when opponents are circling away from his right hand he has a weapon to neutralise this.
     
    Killer Instinct, Apr 18, 2010
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  8. 1ytownfan

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    1) stay out of the bars.
    2) dont fight AA, go to AA
    3) come into camp around 170.
     
    1ytownfan, Apr 18, 2010
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  9. smokin_joe

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    He's lost to two great, technical boxers. One of them at a weight division he hasn't fought at before. Was he a bit overrated after the Taylor fights, probably. But that doesn't mean that his career is over. He fixes up his flaws, hire a new trainer, he can be competitive at 168. Lowe has taken him as far as he can, especially when you see that he had the same problems against Martinez as he did against B-Hop.
     
    smokin_joe, Apr 18, 2010
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  10. Trenaman

    Trenaman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Kick his match maker in the nuts.
    2. Fight Miranda again, as apparently beating him now means a whole lot
    3. Fight winner of Duddy / Chavez
     
    Trenaman, Apr 18, 2010
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  11. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    go to 175 and beat cloud and johnson but avoid Dawson
     
    nip102, Apr 18, 2010
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  12. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    #1.HIRE a good CUTMAN.
    #2.He needs help w/his confidence.
    #3.Full pressure from the start, Don't allow a fighter to lead.
     
    Hatesrats, Apr 18, 2010
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  13. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I think a change in trainers might help Pavlik as well. Loew was giving Kelly good advice though when he told him to aim for Martinez' shoulders and chest instead of his head. He should have told him to cut off the ring more and more to his left against a southpaw - but it's easy to say that when I'm just watching it on TV.
     
    sugarngold, Apr 18, 2010
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  14. pavlikfan

    pavlikfan Active Member Full Member

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    He really is at a crossroads now.

    1. Move to 168 - More opponents, and won't have to kill himself to make weight.

    2. Fight a 2nd tier, but recognizable name - Jesse Brinkley, Peter Manfredo, maybe Sakio Bika.
     
    pavlikfan, Apr 18, 2010
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  15. adz222

    adz222 New Member Full Member

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    Pavlik can't complete at the highest level, always been overrated. Changing trainer at this stage will be as pointless as Hatton doing it.

    Let's face it hes been fighting bums for too long since Hopkins and he ducked Williams because he knew what was going to happen!
     
    adz222, Apr 18, 2010
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