Boxing's clear cut duckers

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  1. _King_

    _King_ drunken master Full Member

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    where talking about blatant ducking not made up ducking, tired of all these pac/floyd/mosley b.s.
    how was he forced to take this fight, he could of stayed retired!?
     
  2. Manjuice

    Manjuice chiastic contrapposto Full Member

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    Delahoya ducking marg and fighting two pound forbes instead
     
  3. pretty boy

    pretty boy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dlh ducked floyd for a while. Sturm ducks everybody in the division.
     
  4. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He could have, but i dont think his career as a rap label boss would have paid off the $40mil he owed in arrears to the irwin r schyster.
    Infact i think it was this exact reason that he managed to get into that amount of debt. I wonder which forensic acountant would be brave enough to have a look in Leonard Ellerbe's account for the missing money.
     
  5. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Erdei, Sturm, Shumenov and the rest of the Euro title suckers.
     
  6. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    behave - collins took the calzaghe fight and then had to retire through injure.

    another non-related point - a superstar not fighting a lesser fighter who is calling them out is not ducking.
     
  7. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    It's really not ducking when you admit you dont want to fight that person at that moment.
     
  8. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, he retired, saying a guy in another totally different division refused to fight him, and left Calzaghe fighting an old past it Eubank.

    A couple of years later he came out of retirement to fight Calzaghe, passed out in training and then retired for good.
     
  9. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you're not ready, u shouldnt be holding the most prestigous belt in the division. (Jose suleiman is a ***** tho) Its a blantant duck. Especially since he went onto fight against a guy with a heart ailment, who was struggling to beat a 25 years past Bobby Czyz in his last fight.
     
  10. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Please kill this stupid myth (one of many that Legendary Nights spawned).

    Leonard may have low-balled Pryor by offering him "only" $500k, but that was like 10 times Pryor's biggest payday. Pryor turned it down.

    Not only was this offer written about on a great Sports Illustrated article back then titled "The Champion of Confusion", but Pryor even talked about it after his fight with Lennox Blackmoore. He said "Leonard offered me $500,000", but Pryor wanted more.
     
  11. BrooklynMumin

    BrooklynMumin HOPKINS A " G " Full Member

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    Tyson ducked Foreman in the 90's
     
  12. irish warrior

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    Leonard ducked Hagler for a good 5 or 6 years till he tought he was past it!
     
  13. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Moseley ducked Williams more blatantly than any of these examples.



    He straight out said "No, his style just isn't a good matchup"



    And somehow, since he's looked at by Floyd-haters as some crusader, he gets a free pass.
     
  14. Thread Stealer

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    Risk/reward is pretty much the reason for all the "ducks" in boxing.

    Even Bowe-Lewis. Although Lewis was a very lucrative fight, Bowe/Newman got big money from HBO for fighting soft touches like Dokes & Ferguson. Holyfield was looked upon as declined, judging by Bowe's weight and waistline I think he felt the same.
     
  15. Cpt_Vodka

    Cpt_Vodka Teddy Atlas Full Member

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    No he's not....

    Beating Wladimir Klitschko is a real tough task..... You can't just beat a couple bums and no hoppers and than get into the ring with Wlad... Thats what Briggs thinks hes doing. Hes beating these no hoppers like McGee and all of a sudden he thinks hes ready to fight one of the Klits, lol....

    It takes either 1. Someone special 2. Lots of time and preparation to beat Wladimir now. Wlad has developed so much as a fighter, that the calibur between him and contenders ranked 3-10 is huge. Povetkin knows this and he is taking his time preparing to finnaly be the man to dethrown Wladimir. Thats why he hired a former World Heavyweight Champion trainer in Teddy Atlas, cause he could sure teach him a thing or two into trying to beat Wlad or at least put a a much, much more effort than Chagaev, Chambers and all the other recent Wlad opponents.

    Wasting a lot of time? Yes....Ducking? No.