Ruben Olivares at Bantam Weight 1999-2002

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  1. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was arguably one of the best puncher ever at bantamweight and rated number 36 all time by Burt Sugar.

    how does he stack up against his division in a Marquez, Barrera, Morales, and Pac era? H2H what results would you expect?




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  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    He beats all of them.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He'd be favourite over all of them although he might drop one...Christ knows who to.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I think MAB has the best chance out of the lot. Good technical boxer who could hold his own for breif spells when needed to fight it out.

    Overral, I think marquez is flat out not good enough.
    Morales is too hittable
    Pac was too rough at the point, and Olivares would KO him.
     
  5. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i had the concern that Barrera's skill would be an issue... however, if you get him angry he could make a mistake...

    I see it Olivares>Barrera>Morales>Pac
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Yeh. But syaing that Olivares is a great boxer aswell when he did look to box. People forget that. I actually thought Barrera was fairly controlled in the heat of battle.
     
  7. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Olivares can box... definitely an offensive oriented relentless boxer puncher ... I think it would have been a brutal fight and close
     
  8. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he'd beat them all, they would be great fights but as long as he came in well trained which isn't a guarantee by assuming he does he'll win.
     
  9. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good Agreed. He would have to be at 100% to beat all of them, and with Olivares that was no guarantee,but he is definitely capable beating all of them.
     
  10. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its pretty much a given Ruben is going to party himself out of a contention for one or two fights...but perhaps he would change his ways knowing that a loss in this era has a greater impact then when he was fighting.

    At his best he beats them all...but I actually feel Pac at featherweight probably has the best chance to knock him off.
     
  11. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ya know, I think Rockabye Rubin boxed better then Barrera when he trained to do so. I'm not sure which approach he would take in a fight with him but I'll give the edge in a close one to Olivares, and he takes the other bouts as well.
     
  12. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wonder why he never fought Jofre?
     
  13. WhataRock

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    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Even with Morales having that natural size advantage, i just see Olivares pushing him back too much, getting under his chin and unleashing the type of hooks that even Barrera couldn't in the same style of winning effort (in their first bout). A fight with Barrera would be very exciting also, but i've got Olivares still. Actually all of these fights would be ****ing unreal, imagine the exchange of combos with Marquez!

    Pacquiao definitely gives the ultimate battle imo, but at these weights Olivares might still be the master in that one.
     
  15. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    Provided Olivares is at his best I dont see any of these guys beating him.