My top 10 Pfp who are yours?

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  1. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    I think it's impossible to have a really objective top 10 P4P list because there are so many subjective criteria involved.
    I think Pac and Mayweather are the two best boxers in the world, the rest is hazy, but I'll give it a go.

    3. Wlad Klitschko
    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Sergio Martinez
    6. Lucian Bute
    7. Andre Ward
    8. Vic Darchinyan
    9. JMM
    10. Carl Froch
     
  2. Govanmauler

    Govanmauler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Christ Bute gets a mention and who the **** has he beaten ??

    Typical biased bull****

    Oh and to the original list Hopkins is still the 8th best fighter in the world , regardless of weight ?????

    Get yourself to **** Anarci , you know better than that !!!
     
  3. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why Vic, but yet the 2 guys who have beat him are not there (Agbeko,Nonito) and its not like they beat him early in his career these have both been in the last year or 2. Froch:huh
     
  4. Govanmauler

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    Bute at 6 for beating journeymen and gatekeepers is cool but Froch at 10 is madness ????
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Get yourself to ****:patsch:lol::lol: Speak American MOF!!

    Bute knocked out super durable and top contender Andrade, also one punched the dangerous Miranda. Beat undeafeated Zuniga and big puching Baika.

    At Heavy Haye has only beaten a slow giant, and an aged Ruiz. Washed up Barrett. Bute has won more impressive against better competition. Haye isnt a cruiser no more so he hasnt done anything too impressive at Hw. Come talk to me once he beats a dangerous heavy not a handpicked one.
    I only have Hopkins cause he still is very crafty and hasnt lost since the squeeker to Calzaghe. His wins over then undeafeated Pavlik,Tarver and all his prior accomplishments still hold a little water, although i can see throwing him out soon. Still he is much more deserving of a high ranking than Haye.
     
  6. Irländsk

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    Froch is obviously not the most skilled but he is tough to beat, and he has fought very good competition recently. Kessler will take his spot next Saturday.
    Nonito beat Vic 3 years ago and hasn't really stepped uo since then, Vic has fought much better fighters since. Agbeko lost to Perez and I don't like the guy.
    Plus I am biased in favour of European fighters, just like Americans that still think B-Hop is one of the best boxers in the world.
     
  7. Govanmauler

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    LOL Never !!

    C'mon dude Andrade is a walking punching bag ( Who knocked Bute out in the first fight )

    Miranda got outboxed by Abraham ( who was just utterly handled by Dirrell )

    And yeah Bika is tough as you like but not world class


    Im not saying Haye or Froch deserve P4P places but **** they are more deserving than Bute !!!

    I know what you mean about Hops its hard to admit he's done............................but he is ;)
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The guys Bute has beaten were not journeymans. Why do you have to lie and stretch the truth to try and make your point?

    Froch got a gift over Dirrell, lucky against Taylor. I will give Froch credit for the win over Pascal though.

    Just look at both of these guys fight and unless your blind its obvious Bute is a much better fighter than Froch.

    And as far as biasness where do you get that from? Do you think a Romanian,Canadian transplant would get so much more preference over others?
     
  9. Govanmauler

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    I wasnt accusing you of Bias , it was the dude I was quoting

    If Froch got a gift against Dirrell then Bute got a gift against Andrade

    Lucky or not , he knocked taylor out.

    Taylor , Pascal and Dirrell v Andrade , Bika and Miranda - Thats not even ****in close ! ! ! !

    Im not saying Bute couldnt beat Froch , he looks a real talent but until he does ( or beats someone genuine world class then ..... )
     
  10. Scrussell

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    Joke list??
     
  11. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LEt me see your list?

    As for Bute well although i think highly of him you dont see him in my top 10 so dont even now why im going back and forth, other than to tell you he is way better than Froch, although Froch does have a couple good names there is a big * next to the one over Dirrell.

    Like i said before let Haye get an impressive win over a dangerous Heavy and then maybe ill consider him, if you see i dont even have the Klits on my top 10 list although i would argue to hard if you did.

    As for Andrade not being quality well ill admit he isnt the most highly skilled but he hits hard,Great chin and has some good wins Mack,Stieglitz,Bute(controversy),Tsypko and grit against kessleer. Hardly a journeyman if you ask me.
     
  12. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well the loss to Nonito might have been 3 years ago(not that long) but remember Nonito hasnt loss since then when vic has had another loss and a draw since then. yey i know his comp has been better and i can see if he has been undeafeated since then but he hasnt, and to say you dont consider Agbeko cause you dont like him is well obviously showing bias on your part.

    If Calzaghe was still fighting and winning against the same comp that Hopkins has been fighting the last couple of years, all you euros would be in an uproar if he wasnt in the top 10.
     
  13. Govanmauler

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    Journeyman is harsh , gatekeeper would be fairer

    to be honest I really dont do p4p lists I've just got a bee in my bonnet about Butes eleveation by many to superhuman for beating guys he should be beating.
     
  14. Irländsk

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    My list is final, and Nonito didn't get in. Better luck next month.
    B-Hop is fighting in the Grandpa division now with Jones, Tarver, and Johnson and I consider him the best of that bunch.
     
  15. anarci

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    Ok well i wont argue to hardon that as i begrudgingly left Nonito in, but next time i do those he might not be included as he has to **** or get off the pot. I see your point with Hopkins but i also have my reason for keeping him there, although probably not for long. If Ward wins impressively he might take Nonitos spot.