Edwin Valero is found dead

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I personally don't believe in the concept of good or evil people. I think people rely on those concepts to explain the seemingly unexplainable.
     
  2. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Reg, when you murder someone needlessly, this planet no longer needs you, and I don't care if that person belonged in an insane asylum.
     
  3. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    cant say im surprised.shame he decided to murder his wife before doing this.
     
  4. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Again, I can't argue against your personal beliefs. It just seems ironic that the solution to murderers is to kill them.
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    Valero deserved to die Reg if he indeed did murder his wife-I keep hearing allegedly. I haven't given my personal beliefs on a boxing site. I don't believe in the death penalty, but I do believe in killing murderers who are found to be murderers. Not the ones who look totally guilty, and then you find out that they are innocent later. I'm talking about true murderers. What do you want to do with murderers Reg, keep them alive and study them?
     
  6. BrooklynMumin

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    [url]http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/04/boxer-edwin-valero-was-found-dead-in-his-jail-cell-monday-in-caracas-venezuela-police-say-he-hanged-himself-using-his-own-c.html[/url]
     
  7. BigReg

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    Well then you do believe in the death penalty. You just want a stricter policy as to when it can be enforced. What do I want to do with murderers? I'm not sure. Is the death penalty working? It doesn't seem to be a deterant for murder, it ends up costing the taxpayers a ton of money, and it creates another grieving family.
     
  8. saintsmike

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    I'm just shocked since his brain-clot people didn't monitor the situation closer. Something never appeared right with him, in post fight interviews and outside of the ring rumour has it he was a huge alchoholic. His training camp and people AROUND him should have offered him more support, obviously the brain clot probably caused subsequent personality changes.

    I don't feel sorry for Valero, I feel sorry for the the kids and his dead wife and the fact on the face of it it's giving boxing more bad publicity.
     
  9. cm_boxing

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    WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF...... Just weeks ago he was the next big thing in boxing knocking fools out left and right thren i log on yesterday and he pulls a Benoit????? jesus....
     
  10. RDJ

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    Of course it works as a deterrent, a dead man can't kill again. Part of the reason is also punishment, just like with imprisonment. His family should have been grieving the moment their sibling chose to be a murderer.
     
  11. VARG

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    Yup. Killing them is a short-sided solution that is entirely hypocritical and irrational at best.

    Studying them and understanding what goes on physically in the mind might create a window to seeing the symptoms early or even possibly stopping it from ever occurring.

    People get too emotional in the sense that they seek blood over reasoning.

    Valero had a brain injury from his motorcycle accident. Coupled with booze and drugs...who knows where the hell this guy's mind was at. We also don't know the Valero pre-accident. Maybe there was a total contrast in character afterward. The whole story and facts of the situation aren't present and this is why we have individual trials. Instead of your short-sided answers of "you don't exist anymore and deserve to die."
     
  12. BrooklynMumin

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    agreed a real shame.
     
  13. BigReg

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    When I say deterant, I'm talking about detering other people from committing the crime. The death penalty is clearly not a deterant, which is why murder rates are unaffected by it. It seems like many people really don't care about preventing crime, or instilling justice. People only care about vegence. Of course, simply killing Valero is not going to stop another Valero from killing his wife. But of course, no one cares about that crime until it happens.
     
  14. kirk

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    Im glad hes dead, i for one have no problem with murderers being killed.

    That being said, the ultimate tragedy is the death of his wife and his now orphaned child :-(

    RIP Ms. Valero

    Rest in pieces Valero

    Cant believe how much can change in just a matter of days.
     
  15. VARG

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    It's hardly a deterrent as there's always another murderer around the corner. Or someone on the brink of becoming one.