Berto blamed women for Valero's death....

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  1. Relentless

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    tea with milk is the dogs bollocks in the uk, how is it in iraq?
     
  2. 3rdIslander

    3rdIslander GURU R.I.P. Full Member

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    "Normal" & "abnormal" are mutually-dependent illusions. No one is "normal".
     
  3. SoxNation

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    Read my posts that I left to Techks.
     
  4. jdubyah15

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    Exactly.

    On a side not, some, like sox and scar are saying that we are being judgemental towards berto, but aren't you being judgemental towards the wife, assuming she had something to do with him going ape****? None of us know the exact circumstances of the situation, but we do know that Berto made a dumbass comment that he should be criticized for.
     
  5. Boxmaster

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    Fear of women doesn't solve the problem anymore than Valero's apparent hatred of women.
     
  6. 3rdIslander

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    I am definitely not contending that.
     
  7. RDJ

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    Why are you being so judgemental? I mean you wouldn't even judge a man for killing the mother of his child but mr. virgin here is unable to control his emotions over my internet post?

    :lol:
     
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    This is bad and he cant hide behind translation..Berto WTF
     
  9. Boxmaster

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    I did. I don't think any man or woman should be arrested because they dated someone who is mentally ill. But then again I wont date anyone who is mentally ill or who has a low self esteem.

    The point nobody can make anyone else do anything. I don't believe anyone can make someone commit suicide. I don't believe anyone can make someone kill. This is something the individual always wanted to do in the back of their mind subconsciously and they wait for the excuse to do it so they can say "He made me do this" or "She made me do this".

    People need to accept personal responsibility for their own actions. We are adults not children. If you commit suicide it's your fault and not anyone elses. If you kill someone it's your fault and not anyone elses. To blame someone else for your mess is emotional terrorism and is wrong.
     
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    Im not being judgemental towards his wife bud. I havent mentioned her or Valero. Dunno why you think i did.
     
  11. Scar

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    Oh I can, hence why I typed "I think I got". Then again my judgments weren't any wrong as you clearly took offense of absolutely nothing directly offensive in my post. Should I call you a virgin unable to control your emotions?, don't think I'll bother even if you were.
     
  12. SoxNation

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    I'm not saying she did anything. I was saying that we don't really know what happened and she may or may not have provoked it. I didn't say anything other than that and I'm not justifying what he did.
     
  13. jdubyah15

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    No..no.. I'm sorry for the confusion, I was using your points to address some of scar's and sox's issues becuase you explained it so well. :oops:
     
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    If you read enough Scar posts, you quicky realize he's got his own set of issues. He's actually pretty ironic.
     
  15. nervousxtian

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    You guys sure read a lot into a damned Twitter post.. looked to me like he was saying RIP to a fellow boxer, and commenting how women can be the downfall of a lot of men.

    Take the 2nd part of my comment above.. women can be the downfall of a lot of men.

    Doesn't mean it's the women's fault, but it's a reason. The reason Valero killed himself was because he killed his wife, the reason he killed his wife we'll probably never know.