Are jumping punches legal in boxing?

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  1. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No "clear" law? There is no law, period. Which means that it is not a foul unless deemed so by the Ref. Which no Ref has ever deemed a check hook to be a foul.
     
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  2. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I understand that is the gray area... it would then seem to be up to the official to consider it a spin. It is a matter of opinion it seems and in practice it seems that this rule needs to be further clarified so to prevent a death or serious injury in the ring.
     
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  3. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let me get this straight...

    The punch that Tyson did on Buster Mathis Jr is a pivot punch? And is illegal?

    IIRC, I thought Tyson merely stepped to the side and launched some upper cuts.

    Actually, here's the video. 3m 10 in.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glaJz6sNJoI[/ame]
     
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  4. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No one has shown this to Bernard Hopkins yet?
     
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  5. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it doesn't. A check hook is no more dangerous than a normal hook. Really it is less so as the lack of a stable base sacrifices some power. You seem to forget that Hatton got up from that punch. He was stopped by the barrage of punches that came after.
     
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  6. J.R.

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    A lunging punch? Yes, it's legal.

    A backhand/pivot punch? No.
     
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  7. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the broadcaster even describes it as a spin
     
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  8. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    No, that's just a right uppercut delivered after a nice side step by Iron Mike. Great maneauver on his part, and definitely a legal blow.
     
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  9. hogie

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    Tyson's punch was not a pivot punch. It was perfectly legal and fundamentally great boxing.
    From what I understand a pivot punch is when a fighter spins completely around (360 degrees) on the heel of his foot and follows through with a hook. Backhand or forehand are both illegal. Like a spinning back fist in mma. Even if the boxer finishes it like a legal punch it's still against the rules. I've never seen anyone try it, though.
    As far as a superman punch, I think they are legal but not very smart because they waste power and seem to leave a boxer way out of balance. I'm sure someone has tried it against Valuev. There must be video somewhere.
     
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  10. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    the pivot punch you quoted earlier talks about a complete turn, the would be 360 degrees

    that isn't a leaping or jumping punch
     
    timmyjames, Apr 19, 2010
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  11. nastynas

    nastynas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You mustve missed Berto v. Quintana. This rule was in full effect.
     
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  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Watch Haglers KO on Hearns. He jumps when he lands the right, but its not superman punch

    Anyone doing an MMA superman punch in boxing is either an idiot, or a fighter who has total control of the fight.
     
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