can mosley do what naazim richardson wants him to do?

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  1. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    naazim richardson is a very good strategist, and i love to listen to what he says because he makes so much sense, but the more i listen to him talk on 24//7, the more i believe he expects mosley to do something he is not normally the best at doing, and that is to avoid punches to land punches, and that is not what mosley is good at doing, that is what floyd is very good at doing.


    naazim might have the right idea to beat floyd, but has he got the right fighter to do that in your opinion?

    thoughtful posts please.
     
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  2. boy-wonder

    boy-wonder Active Member Full Member

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    dude...mosley has been avoiding punches to land punches his whole career. sure he gets hin on the chin once in a while, a few times a round. many times his offensive aggressiveness is mistaken for bad defense. Mosley gets hit more than mayweather for sure, but he does not get hit alot.

    so to answer your question, yes mosley can execute what nasim has strategized.

    what is more of a question for me is, will floyd be able to pick up his punch volume enought for mosley. Trying to counter and time mosley might not be enough to win, expect floyd to show his greatness on may 1st. not from being a counterpuncher but that in this fight he is going to have to do things he has never done before. Dont expect mosley to get his as easily as you think..
     
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  3. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes. Nazim is a teacher and Shane is a student.

    Both have a passion for boxing inherently making this a good pairing.

    Shane still has the tools. He's always had them. Jack Mosley was not as good a teacher as Jack (in preparation, strategy, or most importantly in the corner in between rounds).

    Shane can and will execute and Nazim is going to have him making adjustments throughout.

    Mosley wins this.

    :smoke
     
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  4. southpaw jab

    southpaw jab Guest

    Naazim Richardson wants Shane Mosley to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. No, he cannot do that.
     
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  5. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    Not sure he has the foot speed or movement to pull off what Nazim wants him to do. Although I'm not training Molsey, and havn't seen how Molsey has been responding to Nazim's strategies. He may surprise a few people.

    Although I'm sticking to Mayweather UD, with movement and foot speed being too much for Mosley.
     
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  6. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yes nazim is good at thinking of gameplans, but is the gameplan the sort of gameplan his fighter is capable of pulling off? when i hear about shane making floyd miss and counter to the body, i think to myself that is not something mosley is great at doing. the reason we know mosley can take punches is because he's not that good at avoiding punches, so if he's not that good at avoiding punches then it's going to be very tough to avoid one of fastest punches in the sport especially with the timing floyd has aswell. like i said, i think nazim has a very good gameplan, i'm just not sure that mosley is the sort of fighter who is capable of pulling off that sort of gameplan i'm hearing from nazim.
     
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  7. Username92

    Username92 Back from the ban Full Member

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    Simply no, anyone can see how to beat floyd mayweather from outside the ring but its totally differentwhen a fighter is in there with him. Moisley has a master strategist in his corner but floyd is a master strategist himself with tthe ability to change during each round.

    Also i believe naazim talks about shane a sif hes dealing with bernard hopkins. Hopkins is a more intelligent fighter who does whatever he needs 2 do do win. shane isnt like that shane is shane, heart on his sleeve a true fighter. It will be his downfall, shane will go all out and floyd will pick up on all his mistakes
     
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  8. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can he get away from the fireballs, step on Floyd's tail and punch him in the stomach? Don't know, but I wonder whether Shane asked Nazim how to train your Dargan!
     
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  9. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    shane is the sort of fighter that would love to trade, that's the way he fights. nazim says if floyd fires his balls, then he wants shane to avoid them and then fire his own balls. the problem is you can near enough guarantee that if floyd fires his balls, then shane is not going to avoid those punches, he's just going to look to hit right back, because that is just the way the guy fights. it's hard to change how a fighter fights just like that especially when they're at the end of their career. in the end instinct and habit kick in. that's what is going to happen. if a fighter doesn't have the right style to pull it off, then the chances are, they won't.
     
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  10. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I got a feeling floyd could easily make Mosley look shot over night.

    I bet mayweather is training his ass off for this fight.
     
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  11. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    of course floyd is training his arse off, they both are. these are two top
    Professionals who are at the top because they're dedicated to boxing. not just floyd, mosley aswell.
     
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  12. Username92

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    Exactly , thats what im sayin
     
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  13. TroubleLurks

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    Yes. Mosley does get hit alot but his style of fighting leads to that. He takes chances and certainly isn't a safety first fighter. If Floyd decides to "shoot fireballs" he will get knocked out in the process. Floyd has to pot shot, move and box...vicious exchanges is Shane's bread and butter.
     
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  14. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wtf?
     
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  15. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yet the whole gameplan seems to be based on a safety first style. like i said, i hope nazim is chatting bollocks because i can't see that gameplan working, not because he's wrong, but because he's got the wrong fighter style wise to implement that gameplan IMO.
     
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