Edwin Valero is found dead

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  1. ciscobox

    ciscobox ..ı|ı...ı|ı.. Full Member

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    ok i google it out just right now. That's really tragic and somewhat disturbing.
    After killing his 24-year old wife, he then go killed himself. :-((
     
  2. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    **** the people that allowed him to continue his rampage.


    the concern and allwance of what he does was like "whatever"

    his wife died because of it... just like backs were turned when he hung himself.


    i'm not sad about his talent.... I'm sad about how everything was in the news like step by step


    mike tyson would have been dead by now as well if he wasn't looked after.


    valero had brain damage.
    ...his wife did the classsic "i fell down the steps" ... everything pointed to putting him in rehab/prison

    they gave him a free ticket in venizuela to be a wildman.

    r.i.p. edwin and jennifer.

    and godbless thier child.
     
  3. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    I understand men saying **** him and die and good that he's dead.

    that is how it should be... but only if you do that without being crazy.
    some people do things and don't know.


    most would never say " yeah ...i killed her"


    most would do it and run and deny it.
     
  4. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    wtf! he may be great in the ring, but to murder his wife and killing himself is in another story. ****ing disturbed man..
     
  5. MagicMan91

    MagicMan91 The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Agree with this. It's clear that there were some serious issues with his mind yet people don't seem to be able to comprehend that. There's a difference between a cold blooded killer and someone who is not of sound mind
     
  6. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    thanks.

    I have been working my mind around it...and i can feel the cat that are angry and got hate but...nobody understands that he needed help.

    they said 6 months...he was out in a week. and that day was a high speed police chase and he was drinking and drugging.

    when the venezuelan po po got him. they let him go home.
    they didnt bring him back to where he was suppose to be. ...or even jail where he should have been as well...like anybody else gettin wreckless.

    If they did their job their would be a mrs. Valero alive today.

    He still did what he did ....and admitted it. ....
    you can feel bad for the crazy or not.
    most like the man that is crazy .....but never consider how he has to live with it. His poor wife knew...and lied for him on numerous occasions.
    I think in any other country he would have been handled differently.... or forced to stick it out in a program.

    nevermind what he could have been....
     
  7. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How was he going to get away with it? He was in a hotel. This case reminds me exactly of that Survivor producer who killed his wife in the exact same way and he got away with it in Mexico so maybe Edwin did think he could get away with it.

    It's not just the killing of his wife that makes us believe he is a sociopath. He beat up his sister and his own mother. No amount of druguse can make a person do that, I've never heard of anybody doing that. And when he beat up his wife he didn't show any remorse, he'd been beating her up for a while now.

    So please stop trying to humanize a monster.
     
  8. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't know **** about the brain. Dolphins and Apes have the same capabilities we have. I would say that even dogs and cats can be trained to have a vague concept of right and wrong.
    Humans would not survive as killing machines, we aren't sharks and we don't have sharp teeth. We only survived this long because we cooperate.
     
  9. homebrand

    homebrand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Valero's manager, Jose Castillo, criticized authorities for failing to act more forcefully to prevent the killing.

    "I asked the authorities not to let him out. He needed a lot of help. He was very bad in the head," Castillo told reporters. "But they let him out. They were very permissive with him, and because of that, we're now in the middle of this tragedy."

    espn.
     
  10. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really? Whats the difference? Intellect? Valero was a boxer not a college educated genius. He probably knew he couldn't get away with it considering the situation and turned himself in because he knew the mob would kill him anyway.

    And his suicide? That could be street justice. It happened in prison.
     
  11. MagicMan91

    MagicMan91 The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    IMO It's likely that they'll find his brain in a deteriorated state (if they do a proper autopsy) due to his bike accident/surgery, the hundreds of rounds of sparring/fights and the cocktail of booze & drugs. It will be similar to the Benoit case a few years back where it was medically proven that he had certifiable mental problems which would affect his actions & that was what caused the murders back then. The reaction from fans was pretty similar to this situation as well. A group of people saying "**** him, he's a killer" another group saying "damn, there's gotta be more to this" and another group saying "Let's wait for the full story before going overboard" When it was shown his brain was that of an 80 year old with alzheimers then most people levelled off and realised that it wasn't the regular Benoit, it was the guy with severe brain damage who was responsible. I'm pretty certain that is what will have happened. The mind is a complex thing, something so 'deep' that people are not always able to fully comprehend what it is capable of and how it is affected by even a slight incident, let alone the damage done to Valero. It's likely there was a diagnosable condition with him but unfortunately, it's just too late.


    At least, that's what I think
     
  12. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There are different kinds of Murder. Some are gang related and done in defense and sometimes the only option for survival. When we are sent to war we are fighting someones battle and killing kids that are mirror images at 18 years old.

    There are people that belong in jail forever and then there are those that have made mistakes.

    People that rob and kill innocents should have to pay the price but this is not all black and white. If someone proves redemption they should get a 2nd chance. Why Politicians have been robbing people for years and they do it through blurred gray lines.
     
  13. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    I blame Bob Arum.





    Hey, why not?
     
  14. Bad_Intentions

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    RIP Valero nd his wife..

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  15. boxer1025

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    Edwins wife was beautiful. She was a true native princess...:-(