Wladimir Klitschko: How would he fair aginst the greats and is he a HOFer??

Yes a 5"11 Joe Frazier kills the Klits. They're just 45 lbs heavier than him and also happen to be boxers with much better foot work, a ridiculous reach advantage, a better jab and superior punch output.

Right.

Then again, I remember seeing guys here on the board picking a 5"10 James Toney to "destroy" both brothers so maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

 

That's like saying Lewis never beat Bowe as a pro so Lewis didn't beat all "champions" (you really should have said belt holders).

 

Oh, yeah, your right. Wlad hasn't fought his BROTHER, what was I thinking? Toney, Briggs, and Ruiz? atsch

 

Wlad TKO11 Louis
Wlad SD12 Ali
Foreman KO6 Wlad
Wlad TKO8 Marciano

Wlad will be in the HOF.
P4P he really is not a great fighter.
H2H because of size , he is a great fighter , fact he holds most of the belts and i doubt he ducked anyone.

 

All that doesn't mean ****. Joe Frazier is no James Toney. Neither one of the Klits have a higher punch output than Frazier. WTF are you talking about. As soon as Frazier's hook touched Wlad it would be bedtime.

 

atsch no please tell me you didnt put that

 

I hear this BS all the time "OH IF HE ONLY CONNECTED ONCE, HE WOULD SEND ANYONE TO SLEEP". According to your ridiculous theory a guy like Tua would blow Frazier (and all top 20 ATG HWs) out of the ring because his left hook is 10x bigger than Fraziers ever was. A single punch doesn't win fights unless the fighters brings a complete package as a fighter in punch, chin, height, footwork, reach etc. Neither Tua nor Frazier have that at today's HW.

The truth is Frazier would be terrible outmatched against either Klit. A total mismatch just like Louis. A strong small fighter is always at a huge disadvantage against an equally strong big fighter.

 

And would that be the current version of Wlad, or the version who has been stopped 3 times? :think

And that wouldn't be the version of Vitali that got stopped on cuts by Lewis? :think

They're good and all, but they're hardly the H2H kings you guys are making them out to be.

 

I think he is deserving of being in the Hall of Fame.
How dose he do vs. Some of the Great heavyweights?
Let's take a look at his strengths and weakness
Strengths: He's tall and uses his highth and reach to his advantage. I think a lot of people under estamate this. He has very good fundementals and he has power. He has a very high ring IQ. He has one if not the best trainers for tall boxers Emanul Steward.
Weakness: He has a questionable chin all his losses have been by stopage.

I think it is going to take another "big" heavyweight who has comparable size and reach to beat him. I think the smaller heavyweights no matter how good, fast or tough they are would not beat him.

 

:hi:

 

To even consider this Wladmir clown as a HOFer shows how bad the HW division is, and has become. That he is even the champ is a joke.

They say Joe Louis fought the bum of the month club.....this guy has a whole divison of and title defenses against nothing but bums.

The whole HW picture of contenders is fill with nothing but just got off the bar stool bums.:roll:

He just happens to biggest of the big bums.

 

At last, I have found someone that agrees with me that Wladimir would beat Joe Louis. I agree that Ali would outbox Wladimir and win a decision. Foreman definitely had the power to KO Wlad, but I would pick Wladimir to win that one too. And I love Marciano, but yes, Wladimir would do away with the legendary Brockton Blockbuster. I actually agree with you on all points. That is rare.

 

Wlad and Lewis, due to their size and strength, honestly have an advantage over most great heavyweights. Even Ali would have to fight a much more aggressive fight against them to get inside their dominate jabs.