Vitali Klitschko vs. Muhammad Ali

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Fraid so. It's more rabid than the Jeffries stuff now.
     
  2. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    I don't think the Doug Jones fight was close, actually. I only gave him 1 or 2 rounds.
     
  3. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd say it was closer than that, but a clear win for Ali, although a tough, tough fight for him. Jones gave him a real test.
     
  4. Fighting Weight

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  5. punchy

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    Vitali looks good in most of his fights because his opponents can not get to him, Lewis did a lot of damage once he worked him out and he did it with his right, which I see Ali doing as well. Don't underestimate Vitali he would be a tough fight but Ali would emerge the winner either by a clear points or a stoppage on cuts.
     
  6. ripcity

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    Vitali Klitchko is one of the best power punchers in history. Even his lead jab is a power punch. There is a problem though. A good combonation should be 1,2 or 1,2,3. Vitali punches 1 and 2. In otherwords a good combonation the punches are conected to each other. Vitali more or less throws one punch at a time. Someone with speed should be able to counter him. Muhammad Ali has speed.
    Another thing I don't like about Vitali or Wald for that matter is that if you can hit them you can beat them. I don't think this is the case for all boxers. Ali for example is a boxer you have to do more than just hit. I think as good as theybare the brothers Klitchko break easly.
    By no means will this be an easy fight. Ali will have to be at is best throughout the fight. I think he uses his speed gets in and out. He will take a few good punches. Vitili will even win some of the rounds. In the end I think Ali wears down Vitali down and stops him around the 10th round.:rasta
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    Who was better Doug Jones or Chris Byrd?
     
  8. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali can win by stoppage on cuts , but so can vitali.
    ali is somewhat smaller than lewis whom was smaller himself than vitali and it will make the task of landing even harder for ali.
    ali was fast for his size but so is vitali .
    ali's only way of landing in this fight is move forward.
    since when ali moves forward against a bigger unhurt opponent ?
    and vitali can move backwards and continue to pepper ali
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Vitali wins fights largely by controlling distance and pace. Unfortunately, a prime Ali likes to operate at about the same distance Vitali prefers and has the speed both of fist and foot to break Vitali's tactics. Ouch.

    Stoppage on cuts around 10.
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    are you suggesting that ali can land on vitali from the same distance vitali can land on him ?
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Yes. Footwork and timing mean more than height and a couple inches of reach. Its not Rock'em Sock'em Robots where they stand static and the one with the longer limbs does the hitting. I think VK is usually under-rated in these parts but this is just a bad, bad match-up for him, and just about anyone else...
     
  12. Bokaj

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    Patterson? Really? Would this be the first fight, when Ali absolutely toyed with him, or would it be the second, when Ali took him out within three rounds after actually starting to fight?

    The rest of these guys did give Ali trouble, though. That's true. But I don't think Vitaly is really that comparable to them. He's much slower and much less skilled than most of them. He also fights tall, which Jones and Norton didn't do. Lyle fought kind of tall, but then Ali's right also had little trouble finding him. The same with Foreman, who also fought tall.

    What Vitaly has going for him is rather his size, strength, durability and power. He combines those attributes better than probably anyone Ali fought (well, Foreman would perhaps argue with that). He also has a kind of awkward style that could bother Ali. Would be intersting to see how his leaning back defense works against Ali, and vice versa.
     
  13. Bokaj

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    He did so just fine against other opponents with longer reach, such as Liston, Terrell and Bugner.
     
  14. mcvey

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    Good post,though I don't think Ali stops Vitali,I suppose he could open up cuts on his eyes ,but somehow I think the big man goes the distance,
     
  15. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    these fighters did not have vitali's size nor his skill.
    i don't care what boxrec and other sources say about liston's reach.
    i saw parts of his first fight with ali and ali had the reach advantage in that one , he did not have to swarm liston as he could reach him from outside of liston's range.
    vitali will have a bigger advantage against ali.
    if vitali stood still , ali could reach him , but vitali will move too , and despite my vote , i tend more to think that it will actually be vitali by decision