Vitali Klitschko vs. Muhammad Ali

vitali has footwork too , i did not think it will be static , but vitali will have a size and skill combination ali had never met before.
nothing like the

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liston , the foolish terrell , or joe bugner whom was very close to ali's size himself , and had nothing to offer except being a big target for his era.

 

Ali by decsison.

 

You do realise they were all more skillful, don't you? Vitaly is skillful for his size, but only for his size.

 

i do not realize.
terrell and bugner had minimal skill.
if bugner had skill he would not have ended against shavers like he did.
maybe liston had about the same skill , i guess less , but he had a range disadvantage as opposed to vitali whom would have a big range advantage

 

liston actually had a longer reach than vitali, at 84"

 

If you know anything about boxing you will immediatly see that Liston is substantially more skilled than Vitaly. Terrel is also more skilled, Bugner is the closest to Vitaly in terms of skill.

Vitaly is not a skillful boxer per se. He does have pretty good skill, very functional skill, for his size, though. But the difference between him and Liston is very easy to see.

 

I watched it 2weeks ago and gave it to Ali by 6-4. A hard enough fight for Ali but i didnt think the decision should have been as disputed as it was

 

Ali laughs at Vitali while he picks him apart.

 

Im glad you said that because ive had to check that my missus hasnt put acid in my food and that i really did read that. Absolutely absurd statement to make

 

thx, a pleasure to be here.

as for the discussion, my newbie opinion is that this is one of those "speed kills" instances - ali just too damn fast for vitali. vitali's size means almost nothing - ali fought guys just as big and much stronger.

 

Who?

I agree with your general case, but Vitali is a quite unique fighter.

 

Liston's reach is actually 5" longer than Vitali's. Vitali has short arms for a man of his height.


Checkout Liston's abnormally long arms here
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK_LWFpgY74[/ame]

pause at 0:02. :shock:

 

whoops, i just saw what i wrote, sorry. meant to say he fought guys with bigger reach and stronger (foreman, liston the most obvious ones). just realised vitali's height alone might present some problems, even without the reach. BUT, terrell was only 1 inch shorter than vitali and had a longer reach and that didnt stop him getting hit all night long.

 

you know, I can do that too. vitali has never faced a boxer like Ali, and NEVER WILL. Ali has a speed, heart, chin, and footwork combination that vitali will never face. Liston was much better then vitali, don't be rediculous. liston's reach is longer then vitalis, he's harder hitting, and stronger.
it's an insult to Ali to ever compare vitali to him. vitali is slow, lethargic, and not hard hitting for his size. terrell was still faster and had a better jab then vitali, so don't go there, bugner was faster too, and could move better.
you're just outgunned here. Ali would embarress the ukranian, while making him **** his pants at the press conferences.