Let's Discuss This: Valero's Potential...

27 KOs in 27 fights is beyond impressive, even if it was just bums he was fighting to build that eye-popping record. However, from watching him on YouTube, Valero seemed very rugged...his punches were wild and wide; and decent counter-puncher would pot-shot him all night en route to a UD...when you're talking about him stepping up and going against the very elite...

...he would have nothing more than a puncher's chance...

 

Are threads like this really appropriate at this time? The whole tragedy has literally just happened and the all the details are still not in the public domain. Discussions about how good he might or might not have been can surely wait at least until him and his victim are laid to rest...

 

It's a shame he's level of competition is pretty poor and he's only really faced 2 decent fighters. I believe he doesn't have the tools to reach the heights of Pacman or Mayweather. He would provide solid competition and be a solid champion and could possibly reach the heights of Morales/Barrera.

Any higher you're just blind.

 

I know this is a boxing forum, but your talking about a guy who murdered his wife and then hanged himself less than 3 days ago. You know that people's opinions of him are going to be skewed massively by that fact so why try to get an answer to your question now? A good week or so to let the dust settle as much as it can would've probably seen you get a better response imo.

 

I'd say solid champ. His record of 27-0 with 27 KO's gets him at least that far if we're just speculating. HOF or even ATG level is something you can only achieve with the actual resume. With a resume as thin as Valero's, no amount of speculation will get him over the hurdle between solid chanp and HOF or ATG level.

 

Aye, I didn't call him a journeyman I said he'd be a solid champion with the possibility of reaching Morales/Barerra level.

 

he definetely could of been a 3 weight world champion by winning a title at 140

but cause he was very limited to only fighitng in teaxs in the U.S he would of never got the exposure nor the opportunity to make a big name for himself.

 

I think he would have reached the very top of the sport. His ferocity in the ring was something out of this world. He fought like a wild, deranged beast let loose on some unfortunate prey. Yet despite this, he also had solid skills so he wasn't just a brawler. Look at the Mosquera fight and his sparring sessions with Erik Morales, Urbano Antillon, and Jose Armando Santa Cruz to get a better appreciation of the skills he had. You will see a vicious two-fisted southpaw with KO power in the straight left as well as the right hook with good control of range, good slipping technique and solid counterpunching. He also seemed to get even more vicious when he got tagged by his opponent.


The DeMarco fight was actually a somewhat sloppy performance from him since I knew he could do much better, surely the accidental elbow as well as the very serious problems in his personal life (which were already well-advanced at the time of the DeMarco fight) contributed to that sub-par performance.


The greatest proof of his pure unadulterated savagery was not his 100% KO rate; it was the dantesque, surreal and unspeakably horrible end of his life and his wife's and the hellish few weeks leading up to this catastrophe.