Floyd VS. Sweet pea Who has the better Defense Videos

You didn't know it tell you read my post neither. :roflatsch:rofl

 

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks this.

The thing is though: Even when he's fighting off the back-foot, his focus still seems to be on scoring and leading as well as countering and making the opponent miss. He's constantly pumping that beautiful jab while gliding back, stopping occasionally to pepper his opponent with combinations, sometimes stepping into the pocket, sometimes going inside. He's always working, not waiting. Partially, it's what makes him such a fantastically versatile and skilled fighter, but it also reflects the nature of what I think is an all-round technician rather than simply a defensive specialist. I mean, Monzon spent many of his fights on the back foot, but he was hardly a defensive fighter. (I can see similarities between the two, actually.) It's hard to believe that Whitaker can have such a defence, but for it to still be only one single part of his overall skillset.

 

Exactly. His defence is one of his many assets as a complete boxer, that sums it up perfectly. I don't mean to knock fighters that are simply defensive minded or one dimensional punchers though, what is effective is effective. But the complete technician is something i admire so much.

 

Yeah, guys, it's a toss up for me as well. IMO, it comes down to the observer's personal preference: Great defense with an emphasis on evasion, or great defense with an emphasis on parries, catches, & rolls. Footwork might be the deciding factor for whoever is rating the 2 boxers also. But, of course, their footwork also varies because of their different defensive styles. Since it's "too close to call", maybe we should consider "ring generalship" as part of the defensive strategy as well.

 

Sweet Pea.

That the vast majority of the Floyd video is made up of Marquez, N'Dou and Baldomir just about says it all.

Floyd is a great defensive fighter, but he has not proved the effectiveness of his defensive system in the same way that Sweet Pea did.

Also, Floyd parries a lot of shots, whereas Pea ducks and dodges them. In a long, hard fight with a heavy-handed opponent, Floyd would find it a lot harder than Pea would. Continually absorbing hard shots with the arms, gloves, shoulders is going to wear you down. Slipping them isn't.

 

Pernell Whitaker was faster, more agile and he floored a prime Oscar. And he fought better against Pscar than Floyd did, robbery aside.

 

It also takes much more out of an opponent when they have to pull their own arms back rather than having your gloves do if for them.

 

Floyd Mayweather Jr. has better defense than Pernell Whitaker did.

 

Exactly. Plus a mobile target is always more difficult to hit than a stationary one, and at his peak Pea had better mobility than Floyd did, who was always prone to his spells on the ropes.

 

That is the greatness of Floyd Mayweather Jr. He is harder to hit in the pocket and laying on the ropes than Whitaker was while moving.

 

Fighting in the pocket/on the ropes like Mayweather does is by far his biggest deficiency. If he could recapture the kind of movement he had at 130, or just be less lame offensively, he'd be much more of a H2H force in the higher weight classes.

 

Couldn't agree more.

 

Yup, the difference is their respective preferences of range relative to their opponents' styles.

 

I don't think even he knew!

 

Niccolino Locche. Game over.