Vitali Klitschko vs. Muhammad Ali

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    This is just idiotic. One Arreola fight where Vitali throws 800 arm-punches and all of a sudden he has superior stamina to Ali. It's stupid. Ali's punch-output is insanely underrated. And his stamina and punch-output is arguably better than any HW besides Rocky Marciano. Even Rocky commented Ali on his non-stop punching. Chuvalo does the same when comparing FOTC Ali to Ali of the 60's.
     
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  2. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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  3. Brit Sillynanny

    Brit Sillynanny Cold Hard Truth Full Member

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    :good
     
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  4. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :yep

    VITLAY was on rubber legs, the referee got it wrong.
     
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  5. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    :good

    Just imagine if Sanders was a couple years younger, and had the stamina to fight past 2 rounds?
     
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  6. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was going to post that, but thought better of it :D

    He did give VITLAY a good beating in that first round though didn't he...you can just see it on VITLAYs face....."hey, they've gone and matched me with someone that hits back again, this does not compute" :lol:
     
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  7. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Should have been ruled a knockdown, Vitali has fallen over as a result of the last punch Sanders threw but the punch didn't knock him down directly, in my view a knock down he was in a bad way. Sanders could punch, Vitali has a good chin, but Sanders could punch.
     
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  8. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vitali has shown weaknesses against a large quick opponent who could punch ie. Lewis and Sanders so it does raise the question how he would have gone against Ali and Bowe, a fighter like Areolla who was courageous but too small to get to Vitali is the type of fighter he likes to fight.
     
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  9. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Arreolla also had no idea about defence which made him even more the kind of fighter VITLAY loves to fight. Prime Lewis or Bowe or even Holyfield would be the ultimate nightmare for either Klit brother, and don't even get me started on prime Tyson :shock:
     
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  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yes, he did.

    Do you think Tyson is to small for Bruno?

    You cannot list speed as an advantage for Klitschko if he is slower.

    Ali has figured out a vaster array of styls than any other HW in filmed history. The case for Ali being somehow "unable" to fathom Klitschko is unproven at best and baseless at worst.

    But less power than many men Ali beat.


    :lol::lol:

    How about -

    Ring generalship(all aspects)
    Punch variety
    Accuracy
    Mobility
    Proven stamina
    Durability
    Heart
    Strategical adatpion


    For starters.

    You list two advantages for Ali over Klitschko. Is that some sort of joke?

    That's not a "weakness"!! If it's a weakness then i'd like to see "hasn't beaten a fighter that is even only 3 classes removed from Ali's" as a "weakness" under Klitschko's weaknesses.

    He did it with some of the hardest punchers in history though, and came out with the better of it. Who has Vitali out-fought? Corrie Sanders?

    In his prime, Ali didn't get hit very much.

    That's pathetic. He KO'd George Foreman (yes i know it was hot) he stopped Joe Frazier, he stopped ****ing Oscar Bonavena but he doesn't have enough power to - wait for it - bother Vitali?


    :lol:

    :lol:

    :lol:

    :lol:



    I know English is not your first language, and i'm honestly making allowances for that, but you have a lot of facts wrong in what is a horribly unbalanced post. You need to have a rethink.
     
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  11. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Just set fire to your PC and have done with it, you know nothing.
     
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  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Attributing quit jobs to Ali in a time when he didn't even quit. Your theoretical nonsense doesn't work here. You're clearly trolling.
     
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  13. punchy

    punchy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sanders did push Vitali but Vitali was out on his feet which is why he went down he didn't slip.
     
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  14. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Oh.

    My.

    God.

    :patsch
     
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  15. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    You should perhaps have taken your own advice :thumbsup
     
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