How well do you think Bute does in these matches?

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  1. qcolts

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    vs Ward- Loss UD
    vs Kessler- Win LATE TKO
    vs Froch- Win KO Round 7
    vs Abraham- UD 12 (tough fight Abraham has a punchers chance)
    vs Dirrell- Win UD 12
    vs Green - Win KO Round 5 or 6
     
  2. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    :deal
     
  3. WesT

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    And i was ironic about Green.
     
  4. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    vs Ward: Loses a 9-3 decision.
    vs Kessler: Loses a 7-5 decision (or wins - depending on where it is).
    vs Froch: Loses a 7-5 decision if in Nottingham (wins if in Montreal).
    vs Abraham: Wins a 9-3 decision.
    vs Dirrell: Wins a 8-4 decision now, but loses 4-8 in a year.
    vs Green: Wins on KO5.
     
  5. elchivito

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    SD for Ward. Bute is a fast, hard puncher, but defensively not very good and not hard to find. Ward SD 12 over Bute

    Too fast for Kessler. Kessler can't pull the trigger anymore. Bute UD12 over Kessler.

    Bute the better boxer and would probably build up a lead, perhaps even dropping Froch one or 2 times along the way, but Froch will only come on stronger in the late rounds while Bute will start to show effects of Frochs pressure. Perhaps a draw or late stoppage win for Froch. I'd favor Froch by late TKO. Froch TKO 12 over Bute.

    Despite Abraham being the most dangerous puncher at 168, not the most skillful. I think they are close in power, but the difference will be Bute's speed and he should get a UD if he stays away from AA's right. Bute UD12 over Abraham.

    Dirrell other than Ward is probably the best pure boxer at 168. He has better defense and looks like actually thinks in the ring, adapting to the situation, something I don't see Bute do yet. Bute always looks scared and too nervous the first rounds and runs around the ring alot before he unloads. I think the first rounds will be close, but this is when Bute is best and he obviously is the bigger puncher between the two. Middle rounds on up it's all Dirrell beating a tired Bute to the punch. Dirrell SD over Bute.

    Green doesn't have the speed to catch Bute and gets broken down. Bute Tko 5 over Green.
     
  6. WesT

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    Pretty good post with an exception Bute does the thinking in the ring . Bute is watching the opponent carefully and when he sees the opening ..Boom
    When Bute looks scared in the ring he's being cautious when Dirrell looks scared in the ring he is desperate. Your not gonna see Bute kneeling in the ring.And if you bet on Bute stamina being bad you might lose.
     
  7. keith

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    Maxime probably has it the best.

    Though I would favor Bute over Dirrell. Dirrell does not like to get hit hard, and Bute is quick enough to land some punches that I think would discourage Dirrell from really sitting down and using his hand speed advantage.

    Bute could go 5-1, and probably no wrse than 3-3 unless his chin turns out be a problem.


    Keith
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    In my opinion:

    He beats Kessler by UD, how wide depends on what Kessler has left.

    Froch is a tricky one. Bute's last 3 fights ended in 3-4 rounds. I think there are still unanswered questions about his stamina and chin. If Bute's stamina held up, he'd beat Froch badly.

    Bute would clown Abraham, and probably stop him.

    Although Dirrell seems to be improving rapidly, right now Bute may be a bridge to far.

    He'd knock Green out.

    Ward is the only real technical puzzle. Plus, I have no idea how Bute would respond to Ward's tactics.
     
  9. JoeAverage

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    To elaborate:

    Ward... Noone beats Ward in Oakland with Ward's neighbour as the referee. Period.

    Kessler... Like Maxime says .. depends on where Kessler is - and whether he found some motivation for his sport again after 3 tough years.

    Abraham... Well, Bute will surely win the rounds, but Bute doesn't have a granite chin, so Abraham has a really good chance to get a KO in this one. Bute also has never been in the ring with an explosive puncher like Abraham.

    Froch... Bute has been in the ring with Andrade who is a simpler version of Froch. And Andrade pretty much KOed Bute the first time around! Tough fight to predict, and Bute has shown some signs of fading when pressured to the max (like against Andrade) - and Froch does not fade - and carries a punch to the last minute. Both could win on points, and Froch could win a late stoppage.

    Dirrell... Dirrell looked great against Abraham, but Arthur honestly hardly threw a punch that night. However, Dirrell speed and athleticism is easy to see. Hard fight for Bute, but if it happens in the next 6-12 months I think Bute will take a narrow UD. IF it happens later I expect Dirrell to have honed his skill to a level where he beats Bute.

    Green... Green seems to be out of his league here, and I would expect a stoppage at some point in the fight.
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

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    1. Beats Kessler by UD
    2. Beats Froch KO 10
    3. Loses by KO by to Arthur Abraham, round 10-11 or so
    4. Loses by wide UD to Dirrell
    5. Loses close UD to Ward.
    6. Havent seen enough of Green to make a proper judgement. I'd say Bute UD 12 initially.
     
  11. florin3k3

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    i noticed him getting caught quite often too. maybe it was just because of his game plan which required a bit more risk. i think he wants to win matches but also to put on anice show. he could have fought both andrade and miranda a lot more defensively and won easily on point but it was his choice not to and be a more spectacular fight. that or he just doesn't really excell at blocking punhes that well. what do u think?:?
     
  12. Pax

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    beats green and dirrell, draw w/ kesseler, loose to all the rest
     
  13. miggzthatnucca

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    Ward - ward ud .. ward too defensive .. good fight but bute gets countered and prolly head butted a couple times and his eye would swell lol
    Kessler - bute ud .. kessler fights a brave fight but kessler face would show how the effects of the fight
    Froch - bute ud ... froch gets dirty but bute makes him pay with counters
    Abraham - bute ud/ abraham late k.o. ..I think this is the most compelling fight in this thread and I think win or lose he gets hurt by AA.
    Dirrell - andre sd ... andre dirrell starts fast and takes the early rounds and they split the second half .. dirrell giving some rounds away with bute landing some shots that look cleaner than they actually were
    Green - toss up .. prolly ... bute ud .. green is good and packs a punch but I see bute landing cleaner punches but if green comes in focused he could potentially hurt bute
     
  14. miggzthatnucca

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    Ward - ward ud .. ward too defensive .. good fight but bute gets countered and prolly head butted a couple times and his eye would swell lol
    Kessler - bute ud .. kessler fights a brave fight but kessler face would show how the effects of the fight
    Froch - bute ud ... froch gets dirty but bute makes him pay with counters
    Abraham - bute ud/ abraham late k.o. ..I think this is the most compelling fight in this thread and I think win or lose he gets hurt by AA.
    Dirrell - andre sd ... andre dirrell starts fast and takes the early rounds and they split the second half .. dirrell giving some rounds away with bute landing some shots that look cleaner than they actually were
    Green - toss up .. prolly ... bute ud .. green is good and packs a punch but I see bute landing cleaner punches but if green comes in focused he could potentially hurt bute
     
  15. laffie

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    You compare Bute to Dirrell and say that Bute is the one scared?
    You say Bute has a poor defense, even if Miranda had only 15% of his shots landing?

    If Bute seems easy to hit at times, that's because he's there to fight, not to run. You can't say both things together (he gets hit AND fights scared). That desn't work.

    That being said, Dirrell and Wad are the only threats for Bute in the division.
    e don't know what would happen in such fights, because none of them has fought a fast and skilled opponent before.