Does anyone get emotional listening......

this thread is everything that is good and bad about the forum.

prima is a ****ing funny guy when wound up though. Can imagine him typing away furiously on his key board going that teeto is a ****!

I think what people have got to accept with RJJ is that he is an ATG, but he was only able to do what he could because of his undeniable speed. once that became diminished so did he as a fighter.

People will always have a difference of opinion in terms of what they think a technicly good combo is.
Some favour JC pitter panter style to confuse and then create an opening.

But RJJ lost a lot of what he had due to age diminishing his speed.

 

video aint working

 

that is not what i am saying to be honest.

all i am pointing out is that RJJ lost one of his major weapons when his speed went, and so will floyd. In terms of legacy, it wont make them any less thought of, as it happens to most fighters; they lose that something that enable them to compete.

there is no shame in that. That is life i am afraid.

Ali was technically gifted, but came to point when he couldn't do it any more. It is not losing the brain to do it, just the physical ability

 

age and loss of speed is not a technical flaw, unless the person in question never had any discernible speed in the first place.

Ali could not compete when he lost the speed to get out of the way of punches.

RJJ could not compete with JC or GREEN in the end as his speed is what enabled him to carry off what you rightly describe as 8 hooks in a row quick combos etc.

 

what are you rattling on about. I am talking about when his speed had declined. You don't read what people write properly, you see what you want to see, and then respond accordingly.

I am not coming back at you, i was actually trying to run alongside you and qualify that RJJ was a great until he lost one of his major attributes : his speed.

My comparison with ALI is valid, as he did decline as his speed went. It is not hard to grasp, and is a natural occurence.

Chill out, not everyone is against you!

 

Yes, Roy Jones was not a great technician in terms of punching form, he had great physical tools. I didn't need to answer your question because i've said it shitloads already.

I never compared Mayorga to Jones in terms of their greatness, YOU said that Jones was technical because he could throw a punch, so i put forth Mayorga and Battling Siki, who it seems you are ****ing clueless to you dumb ****. Because they too threw punches that ko'd people, so by your logic they are technical also. Technique is assessed on how the punches are thrown, not on the fact they simply did get thrown. Now watch Roy and then watch Jose Napoles and there's no debate to my argument.

I haven't said anything to degrade Roy, i'll say again, he was effective as almost anybody in his prime, he was very great.

Now **** off, i'm not replying to you again, you're a clown.

 

You can really feel him eh



Imagine him and Flint HD 2 HD :yikes

Brilliant thread, mon the scousers !!!!!!!!

 

Right I know how to end this with an agreement

Prima - is trying to say that Jones had technic and was not just some fast guy.

Teeto - is trying to say that Jones might have technic, but it is very much his own and not textbook, and you need speed and timing in order to get away with it, where as textbook technic has more longevity, and and unnatural speed is not required in order to pull it off,

is that fair everyboby, can we agree to that, and just get along

 

Certainly can Bro. Love this guy he's a welcome addition to this forum. Funniest Thread for a while. :good