Is Mayweather better than Jones?

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  1. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that depends on the quality of the opponents in the division you'll be fighting against. boxing is more than just power, it's about ability combined with power, speed and so on to make a complete boxer., which would be harder to beat than some guy who just has phenomenal power. got to land the punch for the power to mean anything..
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Yeah but if everyone has power then everyone has atleast a punchers chance. As to why even some of the best heavyweights in history, have gotten ****ed up atleast one time in their career in their primes. Everyone can punch.
     
  3. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you believe jones is far more superior in speed and athleticism than floyd? jones is very fast, don't get me wrong, but neither of these two are that fast to be that much more superior in this department due to the other boxer also being very fast.
     
  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :deal Don't get me wrong, Floyd has a great resume, especially 135 on down, but he has never fought an opponent the quality of a James Toney or Bernard Hopkins. If RJ didn't have those 2 particular wins, Floyd shits all over Roy. There is not one fighter I can think of that was as successful as RJ based on pure athleticism alone.
     
  5. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i would give more chance to the boxer with the ability than the boxer who just has power with-in reason. it's a mistake alot of people make when they pick a boxer with just power, in the end that fighter normally gets outboxed by the superior boxer. look at pavlik against martinez for example. i picked martinez using that simple reason and explained why he would win. what i said would happen, happened.
     
  6. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Same size and prime for prime Jones would win.

    So obviously Jones.
     
  7. boxingscience

    boxingscience Boxing Addict Full Member

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    floyd's legacy is not as good at the moment as it should be, hopefully he'll prove his ability against the likes of mosley and then pacquiao. pacquiao will go down as one of the p4p greats, so that would be the defning fight for floyd if he won and vice-versa.
     
  8. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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  9. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    they're both very close. Jones in his prime was a pleasure to watch and the most athletically gifted fighter I've ever seen but as he got older and lost a little he went downhill for not learning to properly box and relying on his youtful athleticism. Mayweather on the other hand is the epitome of a technical boxer and should have little trouble if his reflexes/ speed slow a little. 2 Diff types of fighter, 2 kings of their eras....very hard to pick....I rank Jones higher ATG but with a couple more big wins Mayweather can pass him.
     
  10. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    To me, prime RJJ was just better in nearly every department. More power, quicker hands, totally different defense but just as good.
     
  11. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones depended too much on reflexes that were superior to the regular human.When his natural reactions started to decay , he was very knockoutable. Floyd on the other hand has skills refined to a level that is unsurpassed today, and you'd have to go back a ways to match.
    Mayweather is sturdier physically , and just all around has more to offer than Roy ever did.
    When you compare two guys like this , who are generally a level up on everyone else, the smallest of differences make all the difference. When you add up the sum of all their parts, Mayweather comes out on top.
     
  12. ciscobox

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    prime roy jones jr. pbf has the skills but i think jones is better.
     
  13. popejking

    popejking Adamek Full Member

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    Jones. But its close
     
  14. horst

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    All things considered, peak Roy Jones was a more effective fighter all-round than peak Floyd Mayweather.


    - Jones was, from 1993 til 2003, one of the greatest fighters ever h2h. Guys like Hopkins and Toney couldn't even make it a close fight with him. He was more or less as effective at lightheavy as he was at middle.

    - Floyd Mayweather was a great talent too, but his performances were not as high level as Jones's were on the whole. Jones creamed his best opponents, Floyd struggled with his and did not win emphatically (both Castillo fights, Oscar fight). Floyd is clearly not as effective at welter as he was at superfeather.


    - Jones was undisputed as the greatest fighter on the planet at his peak for a long time, once he reached his zenith (I'd say '94 at smw) there was no argument.

    - Mayweather's equivalent absolute peak was in the early 2000s at sfw and lw - and he was not considered the top man on the planet by the vast, vast majority of the boxing community.


    - At superfeather (one of the new divisions), I'd back Chavez and Arguello to beat Floyd, and Azumah Nelson to have a damn good shot at victory.
    - At supermiddle (one of the new divisions), I'd back Jones to clean house.

    - At light or welter (the two traditional divisions Floyd has had a title reign in), there are many many fighters in both I'd back to beat Floyd convincingly.
    - At middle or lightheavy (the two traditional divisions Roy has had a title reign in), there are only a small cluster of elite fighters I'd back to beat Roy.


    Floyd may have been more well-rounded, more versatile, more skilled defensively, but what is important in boxing is all-round effectiveness, and Roy was clearly the more effective fighter. He was the better fighter, for sure.
     
  15. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Prime for Prime????

    Hard to say, floyd has always had the total package, but roy in his prime was unbelievable.