Randy Couture vs. James Toney at August's UFC 118 in Boston?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by scurlaruntings, Apr 23, 2010.


  1. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just him.


    But it wont happen. UFC knows Toney is somewhat of a draw, why give him a humiliating loss in his first fight? He will fight Kimbo or someone worse.
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Damn it. :lol:

    It isn't like this is going to make me not go, but...
     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Buentello got cut. And Toney was making 68 dam near 15 years ago. At 41 and with an eating disorder i doubt Toney can make 205 or even should make 205.
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    With so long to train, Toney could easily make 205. If he doesn't then I'll take that a clear sign that he is not focused and genuinely interested.
     
  5. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    I bet you've never made weight in your life. You talk about making weight as a matter of course. Trust me natural 200lbs dude dont just make weight easily. Toney was 200lbs in college. At 41 years of age making 205 isnt advisable or healthy. It will take considerable time for his body to adjust to the weight let alone even perform at the weight.
     
  6. eltorrente

    eltorrente Active Member Full Member

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    Couture wins in first minute of first round.
     
  7. Polymath

    Polymath Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Scura is right. There is no chance in hell. Making weight isn't like a video game or something. THe Sherdoggers posting about Anderson being 220 and Griffin being 7'2 and walking around at 340 are about 12 yrs old.

    He couldn't get in shape for multi-million dollar heavyweight fights, he can't now. Older, fatter, with a slower metabolism and not have made any weight at all for many years now.
     
  8. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Making weight in Toney's case is about training hard. He is 5'9 and carrying alot of fat. Being a former footballer is irrelevant as he was once a 160 pounder.

    Roach admitted that the problem with Toney is that he would only spar.

    Toney has shown on numerous occassions that when he trains hard he can get his weight down.

    There is no reason he can't train to at least 215, cut 10 pounds and make 205. He was 217 in his last fight so you come across as a Toney apologist who is chatting ****.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    217 in his last fight and still fat. He could cut that weight if he wanted though I think he could lose more weight and come fight time he'll be in shape 205 rather than weight drained.

    It doesn't matter if he is 41, he doesn't train hard and he's been on this MMA gig for months and the fight is pencilled for August.

    If fight fans are going to pay fighters wages they should really expect more from them. Coming in shape is the least we should expect.
     
  10. james4210

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    Like those two commentators, but they are a bit rubbish some times. Often I find to be something really major happening in a fight now be in the middle of telling a story as if they're not watching. but I like almost radio style commentary.

    I'm not so sure I agree with you about Tony's prospects. I only ever saw Tony fight once several years ago against a white European guy may be a title defence. This guy was good European champion or something.

    Anyway, what Tony did to him was absolute genius. The slipping and the counterpunching I thought were absolutely stunning. It was one of those boxing matches that was fantastic from start to finish. Anyway Tony came through in the end and won by knockout.

    People seem to be suggesting he's turned into jabber the hut, but he obviously was something really special as a fighter. The chances are he'll be on his ass in 10 seconds submitted with an ankle lock.

    But if he is in a clinch up against the cage he will take Coutures head off I guarantee it.
     
  11. 196osh

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    As Achilles is saying. Toney was 217lbs in his last fight and fat. He couldnt loose 11 pounds of obvious fat to make 206lbs? Hell he would still have a much higher than normal BF%.

    41 year olds carrying the fat of Toney could take that much weight off in 6 months easy.
     
  12. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As if Toney were 6'4" and lean. Get your head out of your ass scurla, if Toney gets on a treadmill he could easily make 205. Dude was 217 in his last fight when he wasn't cutting weight. Toney has massive amounts of fat on him, he could easily easily make 205. If he was dedicated he could cut to 185. Dude is only 5'9" and he fought at much lower weights than 205.
     
  13. bored

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    Would this get sanctioned? Hope not.
     
  14. dahoe

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    really bad first fight for Toney. White really is trying to make boxing look bad
     
  15. James23

    James23 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOOOL! Randy getting a free pass?

    Right. Toney has really worked hard to get to the point where he can call people out....oh wait.

    Toney doesn't deserve to be in the same building as him when it comes to fighting, let alone the same cage.