The TRUTH about Bute Andrade 1 !!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 13Black, Apr 22, 2010.


  1. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Curious, 6 months ago, everybody was saying was slick with no big power...

    I think that shows he's pretty complete. :deal
     
  2. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Don't quit your math course. You should be able to count up to 8 soon. 8 is before 10.
     
  3. dru626

    dru626 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ha ha ha ! this a very very good point!
     
  4. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only the truth can set Bute fans free.
     
  5. Maden

    Maden Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont really understand the purpose of this thread... In my opponion the ref should have stopped Bute in the 12th in the first andrade-fight... But he is still in my top 3 at 168.
     
  6. 13Black

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    First paragraph ... no comment... u no doctor amigo ... let's stick our noses in places that we master or at least compete with experts.


    Second ...I am a Bute fan and I admit to myself that the fight should have stopped with about 10 sec. in the fight, and the fight refereeing was a fiasco.

    Anybody! Can u tell me why the fight shouldn't have been stopped before Bute got KD? Is there a rule somewhere? the referee code or some? Do we have proof?

    Third...I respect your opinion but may I intervene!
    This is an excerpt from an article I recommend:

    http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/7944/bute-win-further-calls-super-six-into-question/

    He’s an interesting fighter, who doesn’t fight much like anyone else. He moves well in either direction, but he’s not fast footed. He has somewhat quick hands, but more significantly, his punches are sudden. Bute has a very good eye: he’s able to spot openings extremely well, and he fires almost automatically into them. He operates behind a good, solid right jab that is often followed by the straight left. Although he punches in combination, I don’t think that he systematically works out these combinations as much as he senses where they should go. This might mean that he looks like a bigger puncher than he actually is. The hook that Floyd Mayweather used to knock out Ricky Hatton might cause someone watching him for the first time to assume they were seeing a big puncher. Although I’ll give Bute credit for having more power than Mayweather, I can’t see these recent one punch knockouts as suggesting another Thomas Hearns (as Max Kellerman suggested during his interview after the Miranda fight.)

    Bute’s power punching accuracy is steadily rising since Andrade 1, more than that it is allready humangas. The last three fights's average closes 50%. Dude 50%! This guy is a machine! Accuracy is what will compensate for Ward's movement. We are in peace on the power level the 2 boxers bring in the ring, and IMO Bute boxes well enough to keep the right distance from Ward's punches. IMO... Bute UD or SD.

    Peace
     
  7. 13Black

    13Black Member Full Member

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    Obviously I left it out if it was obvious no? Think about it!
     
  8. 13Black

    13Black Member Full Member

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    I found it!
    The referee shall exercise immediate authority, direction and control over the contest to which he has been appointed.
    1. He shall be the only one to determine if injuries have been produced by a foul.

    2. He shall be the only one to determine an intentional foul and cause points to be deducted.

    3. He shall have the power to stop a contest and render a decision at any stage if he considers it to be too one-sided, or if either contestant is in such condition that to continue might subject him to serious injury.

    ;-)
     
  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Some referees might have stopped Bute when he was stumbling around the ring in the 12th, but I doubt that most would, especially as he had dominated the early parts of the fight and had not yet even been on the floor.
     
  10. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not sarcastic, 'n honest question, 13B: Is English your second language?
     
  11. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Bute is smart for not saying any of this immediately after the fight, because like he said, the words would have only come across as excuses. He instead has done his talking inside of the ring, and loudly. Now he will get the benefit of the doubt. You can hate the guy all you want, and I've tried, but one can only respect what he brings to the table. I'm dying to see Bute against any of the Super Six, but it might be a while. Bute's a big SMW....I say bring on Chad Dawson!
     
  12. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    He could have easily been Meldrick Taylor'd.
     
  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    If the knockdown had happened 20 seconds earlier while there was still time for the action to resume then he might well have been. Andrade didn't quite get to him in time.
     
  14. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Yeah. Bute was knocked down with a second or two remaining in the round and was up 8 or 9 (9 at the most) seconds later. I guess the ref couldn't have waved it off if he wanted to, the fight was already over.
     
  15. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The referee was buying time. Good old Germany bullcrap. Bute was up before 10. I give him the benefit of the doubt. The ref could have stopped the fight, but not at home. I have no problem with THIS decision.

    For his "condition", make me laugh. Excuses in boxing are very common. They would never let him fight in poor condition against a dangerous pressure fighter like Andrade. I heard that he was sick one month before the fight.