Pacquiao-Marquez 2... Post your scorecard

R1: 10-10
R2: JMM 10-9
R3: Pac 10-8
R4: Pac 10-9
R5: JMM 10-9
R6: JMM 10-9
R7: Pac 10-9
R8: JMM 10-9
R9: Pac 10-9
R10: Pac 10-9
R11: JMM 10-9
R12: JMM 10-9

TOTAL: Pac 114, JMM 114



Anyone else care to post theirs? (if you don't have a scorecard for the fight but just want to say "Pac got schooled" or something like that then please, do us all a favour and **** off somewhere else) :good


My Comments

- The first time I scored this way back when, I had Pac winning 114-113 because I gave the 1st round to Pac. Upon rewatching and rescoring this week, I changed the 1st round to a draw, but scored every other round the same. I genuinely can't separate them in that 1st round. Lederman gives it to Pac and I think Pac edges it on Compubox numbers, but watching it I didn't feel either man decisively won it

- By far the most convincing and dominant round of the fight is round 8 (other than the 10-8 but that was a close round punctuated by a KD), which was won by JMM. Just like in the 1st Pac-Morales fight, the Pacman seems to temporarily disintegrate after getting cut. It may simply be that his vision is affected (and this would make sense considering the misshapen state of his eye in the post-fight interview with Larry), but Pac seems to lose his way a little after he gets cut. JMM suffers a far worse looking cut, but deals with it far better. Round 8 is JMM at his best, clever control of time and distance, accurate combinations, smart aggression

- I think the reason that so many people left this fight with the impression that it was a clear win for JMM is because he clearly won the last 2 rounds. How Lederman gave Pac the final round is beyond me, it boggles the mind. A draw isn't even valid in that final session, JMM wins it for sure. Anyway, it is only human nature to go away feeling that the guy who pushed hardest at the end was the true victor, I have lost count of the number of times I have read people saying "Oscar deserved the decision vs Quartey because he closed the show", completely disregarding the fact that Ike had dominated the entire middle section of the fight and should have been more than 2 points up going into the 12th anyway. This fight is a less extreme version of that - JMM does convincingly win the last 2 so he is the man in the ascendancy, but over the piece he didn't quite do enough, despite a superb 8th round showing as Pac retreated into his shell


Great, great fight. :good

 

I agree, Pac would blow him away now.

 

None taken. Posting scorecards will never get old, the results of fights like Pac-JMM and Barrera-Morales will still be getting debated in decades to come, if you're bored of it already then hotfoot it to another thread amigo!

That's the kind of comment I was hoping to avoid with this thread. I'm looking for cards??? You got yours there? If so, post.

 

Nah. JMM at 135 is not the same as JMM at 130. It was only JMM's accuracy and power which got him through vs Juan Diaz, whose strength and physicality were a real problem for Dinamita. At 126 or 130, JMM deals with a Juan Diaz calibre fighter far easier. No way does Pac get dragged into a war by a Juan Diaz calibre fighter at 135, he blows through him, and he would now blow through Marquez. Pac has improved since March '08, JMM has declined. It would be a rout if they fought now. Pac is too big, too strong, too fast, and he is a better boxer now than he was then.

 

I'm supporting Shane all the way on May 1st! :good