:-( JMM was roughly even on the scorecards with a past-prime Casa by the time of the stoppage, and he had to go life and death with the merely decent Juan Diaz before the stoppage. Compare that to the extreme dominance Pacquiao unleashed on bigger, better fighters like Cotto, Hatton and Clottey. You're not thinking clearly.
The Casamayor and Diaz fights were both life and death struggles that he managed to pull out of the bag late on. It's not like he dominated, those fights were very tough and Diaz really isn't that good and Casamayor was some way past prime. Why should he get any credit for facing Mayweather? I could get in the ring with Mayweather and fail to win a round, doesn't mean i've had a good career fighting at that weight. JMM clearly hasn't looked as good above 130 as he did at and below 130. I don't really see that being open to debate to be honest.
you find me taking ANYTHING away from what pac has accomplished post jmm 2,i just think marquez is being unfairly under appreciated because hes constantly compared to pacquaio
i wont debate that because your right there,but i think the fact hes been succesful at lightweight against bigger fighters when he could still make 130 should be taken into account.
I never understood how people thought Marquez was even on the scorecards with Casa in their fight, I thought Marquez was up by at least 4 points. I have my round by round scorecard somewhere in my house so I'll post mines up later.
Not when considering how he would fare against Pacquiao above 130 it shouldn't. I give him props for achieving what he has at 135, but he isn't as effective there and if Pac had rematched him at 135 i would have fancied Pacman to give him a sound beating.
same as your scorecard except for the 1st round where i gave 10-9 to pac being the more active fighter in the first..
I wish i had thought to pirate all of Pac's best fights before I deployed!I sat at the apartment one day and scored both their fights one after another on youtube while my wife begged me for sex. The cards are halfway across the world in Jacksonville but at one point in the fight i gave 3 rounds in a row to JMM and scored it a draw.
R1: 10-9 JMM R2: JMM 10-9 R3: Pac 10-8 R4: Pac 10-9 R5: JMM 10-9 R6: JMM 10-9 R7: JMM 10-9 R8: JMM 10-9 R9: Pac 10-9 R10: Pac 10-9 R11: JMM 10-9 R12: JMM 10-9 Rounds 1 and 7 are diffrerent than yours popkins I think, close fight, might score it different if i watched it again :good