World Boxing Classic--Who Would Be On Your Team?

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  1. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How do you figure:huh
    Uk top 10
    1. Amir Kahn
    2. David Haye
    3. Ricky Hatton
    4. Carl Froch
    5. Kevin Mitchell
    6. Junior Witter
    7.Ola Afaloabi
    8.Ryan Rhodes
    9.Rendall Munroe
    10. Macklin or Murray

    Cali top 10
    1. Shane Mosley
    2. Tim Bradley
    3. Nonito Donnaire
    4.Andre Ward
    5. Antonio Margarito ( born in Torrance and resides in West Covina,Ca
    6.Robert Guerrero
    7.Abner Mares
    8.Victor Ortiz
    9.Steve Lueveano
    10. Chiris Arreola -Liberado Andrade.

    This is a far better list line them up every one from the Cali list is better according to their ranking.
     
  2. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only one i havent seen is Barker. Rhodes has been around a long time i saw him a couple times when he was a prospect years ago, I recently saw Brook.

    Haye has a glass jaw and Arreola would break it, hopefully we will see that soon after Arreola knocks out Adamek. You are right Froch is not even in Wards league Ward would beat him easily, we will see tonight how your boy fares against Kessler.:yep
     
  3. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your full of **** US is deeper in every division including Hw,Cruiser,LH,SM,MW,JM,Welter, hell even California alone is:yep
     
  4. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    If I was simply trying to get the best U.S. fighters I could on the team, I'd play with the weight divisions a little bit. There's no excuse for not having both Mayweather and Mosley on the squad, for instance. The other change is putting Bradley at 135 so Alexander can get in. Bradley has been thought of as small even at 140, and before he started getting popular like he is now, there was talk, I seem to recall, of him going down in weight.

    Heavyweight-Cris Arreola
    Cruiserweight-Steve Cunningham
    Light Heavyweight-Chad Dawson
    Supper Middleweight-Andre Ward
    Middleweight-Paul Williams
    Junior Middleweight-Floyd Mayweather, Jr.
    Welterweight-Shane Mosley
    Junior Welterweight-Devon Alexander
    Lightweight-Timothy Bradley, Jr.
    Junior Lightweight-Robert Guerrero
    Featherweight-Mikey Garcia
    Junior Featherweight-Rico Ramos

    Below that, I would mainly just be a BoxRec warrior or trying to get guys like Mares and Donaire, which I'm uncertain about legitimacy wise. This is a very strong squad, of course. There are 4-6 Top 10 P4P members. It's a shame that guys like Andre Dirrell and Andre Berto had to be left out.
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mares and Nonito count they are both US citizens and raised in Cali.
     
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    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    If that's the case, then they would both certainly be included at 118 and 115, respectively. That would make the team even more immensely talented. Donaire would also mean that potentially 7 of a reasonable P4P Top 10 list would be Americans:

    Mayweather
    Mosley
    Dawson
    Williams
    Donaire
    Bradley
    Ward
     
  7. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    On a serious note now, I will bet you now, lifetime avatar bet that Haye will beat Arreola if they fight.

    Arreola - fat, cant be arsed to train

    Haye - peak shape, trains his arse off.

    The only hope is the slow arreola lands on the quick David Haye, which....I dont think he would. Id put big cash on it, if it happens, im not sure he will pass Adamek yet though.
     
  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If they ever fight get with me then. Even if Haye were to prove he was better than Arreola , California still owns the UK in a HTH match. So you can quit the crying about US having so many more people to pick from. California has a smaller population and still has better fighters:yep
     
  9. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    I meant the top 6 weight divisions. Didnt know the Phillipines (Donaire) were in Cali? People baseing themselves around the main area of boxing (Cali/Nevada) for work reasons doesnt make them califorian. Arnie isnt californian! Othewise move Khan over to the Cali list.
     
  10. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:think NO!


    Arreola kos Haye
    Afaolabi wins
    Ornelas beats up Cleverly
    Ward Beats up Froch
    Mora beats up Barker
    we can claim Margartito or Angulo to beat up Rhodes Martyisorian might beat him too.

    UK only gets one win here. So why do you want to just say the first 6. Are you telling me none of the other divisions in Boxing count? All your best fighters lose to Cali Bradley beats up Kahn Haye gets ktfod, Froch gets beat up by Ward(compare them tonight). Hatton would get beat up by Bradley and probably Ortiz.
     
  11. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know Ireland's been done once but here's my take on it:

    Heavyweight: Martin Rogan
    Cruiserweight: Ian Tims
    Light-heavyweight: Michael Sweeney
    Super-Middleweight: Brian Magee
    Middleweight: Matthew Macklin
    Light-Middleweight: James Moore
    Welterweight: Stephen Haughian
    Light-Welterweight: Paul McCloskey
    Lightweight: Andy Murray
    Super-Featherweight: Eddie Hyland
    Featherweight: Martin Lindsay
    Super-Bantamweight: Carl Frampton
    Bantamweight: Paulie Hyland
    Super-Flyweight: Kieran Farrell
    Flyweight: Jamie Conlon
    Light-Flyweight: N/A
    Minimumweight: N/A

    Not the strongest team in the World by any means, but there's some World Class fighters in there, others of lower quality and some prospects. But they'd all do Ireland proud.
     
  12. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nonito is from California he was born in the phillipines but raised in California and has lived here since he was a little kid. Every fighter i listed was either born or raised in California which makes you Californian, your making excuses. There are alot of residence that i didnt count, like Izzy,Sergio martinez,JMM,Vitali etc etc.
     
  13. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What about Bernard Dunne isnt he Irish?
     
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    I donn't know. I think Korobov will be the best from Russia. And I like Alekseev thats why I put him before Lebedev and Chakiev. HE has more skills for sure.
     
  15. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He is but he's also just retired.

    The man I have instead of him on the list(Carl Frampton) is only a 5 fight novice but he has the promise to be very, very good. Ireland's best prospect and I could definitely see him making it to World level.

    I'd post a youtube clip of one of his fights but it got deleted a few months ago and the only other fight of his available in the pros was too quick an ending to show anything of him really.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/other/2009/0220/irishamateurs_av.html
    If you go 4 minutes into that video you'll see one of his amateur fights(for the Irish Featherweight title), possibly the best amateur bout I've ever seen and as you can see his style is really suited for the pros.

    He posts on these forums too, mainly on the Irish thread(where I wouldn't be quite as positive when speaking about him, don't need him getting big headed).