Froch And Kessler Are Good European Fighters But A Level Below The Best

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    I don't want to call them Eurobums, but they are clearly a level below the best. Froch looks good awful, off-balance, and beyond open. Not to mention the obvious about being slow and inaccurate at times. Kessler wasn't firing his shots off quick enough, and didn't counter many chances he had.

    Honestly, not impressed at all with either of them. Froch look liked a poor man's David Haye out there and Kessler this fight looks not very fast, short-armed, and not compact and technical like he should've been. While I say this, I think these fighters are good. But they're a notch below. I don't think Abraham is extraordinary, but he is a threat and has some great attributes. Froch vs Kessler are just more good and ordinary, Abraham while not necessary excellent has a great attribute (Punching power, chin, ferocity, combination punching although wide combo punching).

    Lastly, I thought Froch won 7-5. Froch finished much better than Kessler. Kessler gave away many counter-shots, and the slow Froch actually countered at spots well. Froch was hitting nothing but air and I was laughing at him in the early rounds. But he turned it on better I thought.

    Berstein had it 1 point for Froch, and Tarver had it a draw I think. Don't understand these Kessler clearly won threads. I hate Froch, but thought he won. Was close... everybody that watched it with me thought Froch won clearly.

    My scorecard on the fight.

    RD1) 9-10
    RD2) 9-10
    RD3) 10-9
    RD4) 10-9
    RD5) 10-9
    RD6) 9-10
    RD7) 9-10
    RD8) 9-10
    RD9) 10-9
    RD10) 10-9
    RD11) 10-9
    RD12) 10-9

    115-113 Froch

    A lot of close rounds. I thought Kessler started well, although these rounds weren't unbelievable decisive, but clear to me. Kessler was just landing cleaner shots. Froch was missing. Froch turned it up with activity, and landed more. Kessler came back again toward the late middle rounds but Froch closed the show. Froch I thought clearly won RD12. He looked fresher, and was landing some harder shots I thought. RD11 was very close, but Froch finished the end of the round well. In a sense, that round can be called a draw. Bernstein had that round a draw, and he had the fight 115-114 Froch.
     
  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tarver had it for Kessler.
     
  3. truewarrior

    truewarrior Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Obviously me and you saw the same fight...Not the one the biased fans did. I cant believe how easy Froch was controlling Kess with the jab. Almost as if Kess was one dimensional in there until Froch started slowing down in the mid rounds. By the was I also cant stand Froch but tonight he impressed me more than Kessler by far.
     
  4. tito44

    tito44 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What they are below Bute, Ward, and Arthur Abraham? That's not really an insult, and everybody knew they there would be alot of punches landed in this fight.
     
  5. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Ah, okay thanks, my bad. My brother got that wrong. Bernstein did have it for Froch, though.
     
  6. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I guess now we can officially call Taylor an Ameribum since he was stopped by the second level fighter in Abraham.
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Bute, Ward, Dirrell.

    Abraham is going to KO Froch. :lol:

    If Froch thinks he has a good chin. Abraham is a tank, and while he doesn't throw compact combinations at least he throws combinations and at least shows determination and ferocity closing fights. He also is quicker.
     
  8. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Kessler has been reduced to B- lvl. No doubt. He has become slow, sloppy, and zero-dimensional.

    Kessler around the Andrade fight, and prior to that, would have outpointed Froch clearly on the cards, and hardly been hit. It is rather painful to watch. It is no wonder he lost to the just above mediocre Ward. Even against Calzaghe was he still good, even if he never really got it going, but most credit to Calzaghe for that.
     
  9. tito44

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    Dirrell, did nothing to Froch, except run and hold. I agree that AA, will beat Froch, he could win the tournament.
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    They both were impressively unimpressive. Froch was hitting air for those early rounds but he did start controlling. Kessler looked to be fighting the way I expected Froch to and then Froch was acting like he was a poor man's David Haye or something with that sniper jab. Kessler lacked that sharp 1-2 with speed I thought. He couldn't figure Froch so open for the right after he launches with the left hook and when Froch throws his right he is very open for the short right. He did catch him at one point to hurt him good.

    I thought Froch clearly closed. The scores were way too wide for Kessler. This home turf **** is clearly showing some advantage. The best scorecards were probably in the US so far.
     
  11. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    He's clearly gotten better since then. He was much more active against Abraham. Besides he is far superior. Laugh at that though. Froch fights like a caveman how is he exactly a better talent and fighter?
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Taylor was never as good as some as his fans thought. At the same time, he's never been our best. And now, he's clearly past it. Is Froch past it? I don't think Froch was ever very good. Kessler is past it a little, though.
     
  13. Sugarkay

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    Yeah, right now neither of them stands much of a chance against the more "natural" boxers like Ward and Dirrel. I know that Froch beat Dirrel on the scorecards in their fight, but I am more than certain that that result won't be duplicated, shall they meet again.

    Kessler has slipped a lot from his peak form, the Andrade/Calzaghe fight. Just look at his movement of both head and feet in the Andrade fight compared to the Froch fight. He won the Froch fight imo, but he was not dominant, as he would have been, had he been in peak condition.
     
  14. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Terrific post. I thought Froch edged him, though. Nevertheless, though, they aren't the elites at 168.
     
  15. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    The same could be said for Froch swinging like a wildman and barely landing. That was Dirrell's loss more than it was Froch's win that night.