Who are the top 10 trainers of all-time?

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  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Please discuss.

    This is a topic I've become more and more interested in lately, as I've realized a lot of trainers in the sport make for such great interviews.

    Which ones are the best of the best and why?

    What defines greatness in a trainer?
     
  2. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Vision. There are not too many trainers who can see a fight or fighter and understand exactly whats going on. The ability to see a fight and pick out the mistakes a fighter is making, and the strategy needed to offset it.
    Also a good understanding of their fighters limitations and how to keep them out of harms way.
    I cant go back to the early days of boxing but some of the guys that I believe are really good:
    This is my top five in order and I believe they are way above the rest on the second list.

    Eddie Futch
    Emanuel Steward
    Tommy Brooks
    Freddie Roach
    Angelo Dundee


    Teddy Atlas
    Curtis Cokes
    Buddy McGirt
    George Benton
    Archie Moore
    Richie Giachetti
    Floyd Mayweather Sr
    Roger Mayweather
    Jesse Reid
    Joe Gooson
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Roger Bloodworth
    Nazim Richardson
    Ronnie Shields
    Thell Torrance
    Miguel Diaz
     
  3. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lefthook31, i am waiting for rocky kockridge vs harold knight at moment , lockridge's life is in the toilet but is knight a trainer these days
     
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    Jack Blackburn
    Freddie Brown
    Charlie Goldman
    George Gainford
    Angelo Dundee
    Eddie Futch
    Ray Arcel
    Freddie Roach
    Manny Stewart
    Cus D Amato
    Buddy McGirt
     
  5. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What abour Arcel? And I don´t like how you ignore trainers which are/were not active in the US.
     
  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Sorry I dont claim to be an expert on trainers, just went off the top of my head and Im sure I forgot a few, Cus D Amato should be in my top list. Cant believe I forgot him. Not sure about lockridge as a trainer, hes been a crack addict for most of his late life. Bodhi who on the world class level is not active in the US?
     
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    futch, arcel, brown,and blackburn -stand out for me and goldman and the doc
     
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    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    did not mean lockridge:lol: , i was talking about harold knight being a trainer:lol:
     
  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, Wegener, Sdunek and Timm all trained or made around 10 fighters to beltholder/champs. I think that qualifies them for your second list.
     
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    I dont think he is but I could be wrong. I dont think he was ever more than an assistant??
     
  11. lefthook31

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    Adrian Davis made two or three world champions and I think he is probably the worst trainer in boxing today. :good Sdunek I can never understand what hes saying in the corner..:lol:
     
  12. bodhi

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    Well, probably because you aren´t speaking German :lol: Sdunek has heart problems these days and abondoned all fighters but Vitali Klitschko.
     
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    Right! I dont speak German. One thing about Sdunek is none of his fighters ever had much of an inside game.
     
  14. bodhi

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    Well, Sdunek and Wegener learned their boxing in the GDR and the Sowjetunion. Quite a bit different to what was going on in the US. They adepted it a bit when they went into the progame but that´s what they still are. Old school sowjet amateur trainers.
     
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    Let's be clear straight away : a trainer is only as good as his fighters. And the large part of success comes from within the fighter, his own drive and discipline.

    A great trainer is one who can take a kid from scratch and bring out the best of him.
    I'm not as impressed by some of the big name trainers as some are, especially when they seem to only work with already established fighters.
    Bringing a kid up from nothing is more impressive.

    There are some great trainers who just dont want to be jet-setting around with several world champions all the time, or attaching themselves to known talent, they just stick with the local gym and their own local lives at take whatever fighters' fate throws at them.