Comments regarding Ward & Dirrell Using something Illegal

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bailey, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Well, if you look at the heavy weight division you might get the impression hard work and dedication to training is illegal too. :yep
     
  2. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Victor conte has them on his website, along with eddie chambers.
     
  4. JLocs

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    yes but he is CLEAN..................
     
  5. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    1. Amstrong is anything but clean. He ist a proven EPO user (they tested his Tour de France B-samples from some years ago and they were positive :D

    2. Ward working with Conte is not a clever move

    3. Direll not testing after the Abraham fight is not a clever move (and don“t try to tell me he was to injured to be tested...)
     
  6. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    There is a huge double standard in boxing. Ward refused to fight in the tournament unless he got all his fights in his hometown. Ward's referee claims that illegal head butts are legal, as long as they are headbutts from Ward. Dirrell is good actor, looked at his corner then claimed to be knocked out, plus refusing to test after the fight! Void fans over look this crap!
     
  7. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Only suspicions. now if he was offered 25 million dollars and the refused to take some test now that would raise some queations.
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    I believe in a level playing field. I am especially angry about Ward's getting "ALL" his fights in his hometown, thus his famous "Billy Goat" head butt from across the ring being legal. He should have been disqualified.
     
  9. Jsmoove

    Jsmoove Member Full Member

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    lol. Ward and Dirrell must be using something in order to straight up OUTBOX Kessler and Abraham....right. Although working with Conte is a dumbass move it's funny how some of these same people passing judgment have defended pacman and Ariza....hmmm
     
  10. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well there is only one reason to be working with Conte - and that is to get drugs to improve your performans!

    If it was just advice regarding training og nuitrision, then there are people much more qualified than Conte. It's a stupid move by Ward to be working with some-one like him.

    And why risk your reputation working with a convicted criminal, if you're not getting something no-one else can give you?

    When Ward is working with this guys there can be only two reasons:

    1. Ward is using doping

    2. Ward is stupid

    Take your pick

    But then again - boxing isn't exactly known for it's harsh punishment for using doping - mostly the penalty is the same as the normal breaks between fights - and when the testing is as poor as it is in boxing - it's hard to blaim a boxer for taking the short road.
     
  11. Jsmoove

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    anything to take out upcoming boxers who embarrass the favorites lol
     
  12. Edward

    Edward Active Member Full Member

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    Why do you say this? If the guy is responsible for the development of PEDs he must have a very comprehensive understanding of nutrition- there is nothing to say he is unable to apply this understanding within the law.

    I agree however that associating yourself with Conte is a very poor PR move.
     
  13. Faetter_BR

    Faetter_BR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And why make such a bad PR-move if the reward isn't bigger than another adviser could give you? - And there are plenty who knows as much as Conte on nutrition... again either Ward is cheating or he is stupid.
     
  14. pinzon

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    Ward was using plaster of paris under his skull?
     
  15. The Blackout

    The Blackout Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Andre Ward is stupid enough to associate himself with Conte, then I'm afraid he'll have to live with the fact that some people will always think he's using illegal substances.

    Victor Conte is known throughout the world for one thing only - developing and then giving top athletes illegal substances, so they can cheat and beat everybody else.

    As Faetter_BR says, there are plenty of world class nutritionists out there, with clean records. Why go to Victor Conte?? The man who ruined the lives and careers of many top athletes??