Wlad vs. Ali

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  1. Sakura

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    6′6 and 212 lb :bart
     
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  3. McGrain

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    He actually weighed in under 200lbs early on.

    Herald Journal, Febuary 13 1965: "Terrell is an unlikely looking heavweight at six foot six and under 200lbs." The article also notes that he, "started growing a mustache at 12." :lol:

    But he was weighing in up near 230 by the end of his career.
     
  4. Sakura

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    I don't believe that. If Terrell really was 6'6 and weight's only 212lb he can't own muscle at all. Look what he look in Ali fight..either his not 6'6 or his weight was much higher
     
  5. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, he just wasn't a roider, like certain others I could mention...
     
  6. Sakura

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    You don't need extra help to weight more than 100 kg, if you heigh is 200 cm. Regular person without extra fat weight that..
     
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    as long as you are having fun.

    clear is understood / doubtless
     
  8. Seamus

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    I have stood next to an old ass Ali on two occasions. He's a big mother****er. I don't think size will be a problem at all for him. Plus, Wlad has a bad tendency to crouch a little when he's trying to push the issue (as rare as that is)... Still, a prime or near-prime Ali beats him like a drum. An older Ali, 73 and beyond, has trouble with a prime Wlad, who would not fall into a Foreman-like performance... my thoughts on the matter.
     
  9. Bokaj

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    Most of the guys who gave Ali trouble (Jones, Frazier, Young, Spinks) was actually substantially smaller than him. Norton had about the same height and reach as Ali, but fought out of a crouch.

    The big guys who fought tall against Ali (Terrell, Lewis, Bugner, Foreman, Wepner, Lyle) gave him less trouble. Stylistically, they didn't seem to pose that big a problem.

    I think Wlad would be difficult for Ali, but he's not like a magnified version of Jones.
     
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  11. Seamus

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  12. Kalasinn

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    Ali UD or late stoppage.
     
  13. SuzieQ49

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    That's Seamus. Hadvn't you ever watched Family Guy?
     
  14. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I largely agree with Bokaj.

    Ali took on the tallest top heavyweights of his day. On the rare occasions he did box short against a taller opponent, he showed he could go underneath, work the body when the risk was low, and he looked comfortable making the fight against defensively retreating adversaries (except he showed up in dreadful shape for Jimmy Young). At his best, he had the speed and flexibility to get the job done. Wepner, Bugner, Terrell, Dunn, Foreman and Lavorante were all taller. He boxed short against Blue Lewis, making the fight by getting underneath and working the body with his left. He also made both fights against Bugner, again getting underneath and working the body a bit in low risk situations. (He also got low and pummeled the body of Cleveland Williams with a rapid combination immediately after the first double shuffle he put on display in Houston.)

    Brewster is listed at 6'2" with a 77" reach. Sanders is listed as 6'4," but with only a 77" reach. Purrity is listed as 6'3" with an 80" reach, identical to what's recorded for Ali. Wlad was reported as gassing in his defeats to Purrity and Brewster, a horrible weakness to carry into the ring with Muhammad in a 15 rounder. His recent late round stamina is much better, but Ali was the definitive championship round specialist among the heavyweight champions.
     
  15. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Most of the guys who fought Ali were actually smaller than him.

    Also, Ali has a vulnerability to guys who get under his arms and rush him, partially due to the whole lean-back-defence thing. That might explain it.

    Well, none of those guys were big enough to make it that much harder for Ali, and none of them really had the style to pull it off (apart from maybe Terrell).