Why bother getting so wrapped up in what Dana White says, or has said in the past? You all know damn well that you would be tuning in to watch Couture vs Toney. I know that I would. People always act so surprised, and are so anxious to point out every time that Dana says one thing about another organization and then turns around and does the same type of thing. Of course he is going to down other orgs, their shows, their fighters, ect... He is promoting his own organization. That's his job, and obviously he is doing great at it.
Ultimately i have no problem with "freakshow" bouts. As long as someone is getting there mug bashed in **** yeah im going to watch. But Dana went out of his way to trash other organisations proclaiming LOUDLY that sideshow bouts wont happen in the UFC. Now we know otherwise..
Do you have a problem with THIS particular freakshow bout? Because if not, it kind of makes you a jackass to complain about the guy giving you what you want.
Because MMA fans need to see Toney Vs Couture because that means what exactly? :roll:atsch As a fan i watch MMA its that simple. Dana is the one that said the UFC wouldnt do sideshow bouts. He's clearly reneged on that. Either way this bout has ZERO significance from an MMA standpoint. So if you want to argue the semantics over this do so on your own.
Totally Agree With You. I will watch out of interest as i'm a boxing fan and a fan of Toney and i be honest i'm not a MMA Purist but i know a little about the sport. But i have seen White on many occasions say he's not into freak show bouts now he's serving up this fight. I would of thought he'd followed Ken Shamrocks call and build up the boxer give him some winnable fights then throw him in with the big names.
I really don't think this is a freak show bout. I think that is more along the lines of 8' tall super heavyweights fighting against lightweights. I don't see how taking a world class professional boxer and putting him in the ring against a fighter his own size is a freak show by any means. I think that it's an extremely intriguing fight.
To be fair, Toney thinks he can take out Fedor. He thinks he is the best ever without any experience. **** him
I like this fight. It's two guys in their forties having a fight. What's wrong with that? Couture has been a sucker for a right hand in the past five years. If anyone can land a right hand on him - it's James Toney. If not - Toney is in for some punishment on the ground. I think it's an intriguing styles matchup.
Toney talks a lot of overconfident ****, that's just how he is.. Doesn't mean he deserves to be thrown in and mauled by a guy who is extremely good, and in his weight class, one of the best guys in the world at controlling other fighters/where the fight goes, how the fight goes. Randy is old, but he really understands how to control a fight, and take it where he wants it.. Instead of throwing Toney in with someone who is primarily a striker, or someone who vows to trade with him, Dana throws him in with a guy who we know is going to take him down and maul him. Not getting my money for it.
It is a joke, MMA fans should not buy it, it hurts the sport. Look how can they make a fighter who has never been in the sport before a main event. Why does the UFC need this. MMA doesn't need toney. he is washed up, lazy and fat. this is why the likes of HBO and Showtime are done with the guy.
Dana is probably trying to make some kind of point with this matchup. Something like MMA > BOXING. Maybe he sees this as the beginning of the process of the baton being passed from boxing to MMA (and the UFC in particular) as the dominant global contact sport. I guess he feels there will be a brief period of transition where the two sports with homogenize like the middle section of a Venn diagram, then MMA will take over. Horrible matchup for JT though. Randy is one one the best fighters for taking a guy down without shooting. First clich JT is on his back getting subbed in under a minute I should imagine. If you want an ex boxer to bring some harcore boxing fans to watch the UFC and maybe start viewing it as a legitimate sport, why pick the fattest most washed up looking big mouth out there? Dumb all round IMO.
I dont know if he wants to do the MMA>Boxing thing or he would have put Toney in with Jon 'Bones' Jones
This is true. Toney has been thrown in the deep end. If he is dedicated it is a fight he could win but Toney and dedicated do not belong in the same sentence. You are right though. It is the equivilent of a quality MMA being put in with an old savvy pro like Holyfield or even Hopkins. They would get dominated.