Froch vs Abraham - Biggest fight of there careers

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  1. Lampley

    Lampley Boxing Junkie banned

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    Maybe you want to look at 1995? That's probably the best year:

    Benn -- Last great fight in 1995
    McClellan -- last fight in 1995
    Jones -- was fighting at 168 and prime in '95/'96
    Eubank -- fading, mostly fighting above 168
    Toney -- no longer able to make 168
    Collins -- good fighter, not a great fighter
    Watson -- ?? really?
    Rocchigiani -- fighting and losing at 175
    McCallum -- hadn't fought at 168 in a few years
    Hearns -- hadn't fought at 168 since 1990
    Jackson -- past prime and fighting at 160
    Graham -- inactive and past it
    Nunn -- past it and fighting at 175


    Also, if you get to use the surrounding fighters, then today we get to use Bute, Pavlik, Martinez, Williams, Dawson, Pascal, Cloud, Hopkins, etc.

    The Super Six fighters are excellent, and this division is in outstanding health.
     
  2. dannylatics

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    OK 1994-1995

    James Toney, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Roy Jones Jr, Tim Littles, Ray Close, Graciano Rocchigiani

    Vs

    Bute, Kessler, Froch, Dirrell, Ward, Green, Taylor

    Tell me again that 168 is more packed now than then????
     
  3. dannylatics

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    1991-92

    Holmes, Hearns, Benn, Eubank, Watson, Barkley
     
  4. dannylatics

    dannylatics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok then

    Bute - Yet to be proven at the top, only fought 2 top 10 fighters
    Kessler - Good fighter, nothing special. Just a work horse
    Froch - One dimensional, See Kessler
    Dirrell - Has skills but nothing special
    Ward - Not tested except Kessler in the US
    Green - Not tested
    Taylor - Good wins over BHop. Knocked out vs Froch and Abraham

    There is NOWAY you will ever convince me that that list above is stronger than the crop of fighters around 1991 and 1994
     
  5. Slothrop

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    This was a decent post until it turned into Calzaghe trolling. I used to not quite understand the Calzaghe hate on this forum. He's a decent enough guy, fun to watch in a weird way if you admire defensive skills. But ****ing Christ if his fans aren't insufferable.
     
  6. Genaro G

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    We thought Froch vs Kessler was good. This fight will be 3x that! Both coming off losses, both desperately need the win and both are big punchers! I can't wait!
     
  7. Lampley

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    The only guys good enough to be in the tournament at that point were Toney, Eubank, Benn and Jones, and I'd add McClellan, too.

    Jones would be a heavy favorite to win it, and the other four would be in for a dogfights (Toney no longer able to make weight healthily, and Eubank and Benn somewhat past it).

    If Ward, Kessler, Froch, Dirrell, Abraham and Bute are the top six in some order, the 1994-95 group doesn't have a 5th or 6th guy at that level.

    I'm not factoring Taylor or Green into this at all.

    And even if you think 1994 is better, it's definitely competitive and certainly deflates your point about this being a weak group of fighters. There are hardly any other years even in the picture compared with 2010.
     
  8. dannylatics

    dannylatics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I respect what your saying but we will have to agree to disagree.

    And Im no Calzaghe nut hugger, but stating that Joe would wipe the floor with the super six is just stating facts.

    And I just don't see Ward, Kessler, Froch, Dirrell, Abraham and Bute in the same level as Benn, Eubank, Toney or Jones. You shouldn't even talk about them in the same sentance yet.
     
  9. dannylatics

    dannylatics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree mate, going to be a great fight! :good
     
  10. realsoulja

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    The division at the moment is way better than it was 5 years ago when Calzaghe was too good compared to Tocker Pudwil, Kabery Salem, Byron Mitchell, Charles Brewer, Omar Sheika...

    If Calzaghe had Green, Ward, Dirrell, AA, Bute around in his time there would be no 46 and 0
     
  11. kirk

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    Gotta say i disagree with a lot of what you say in your opening post...

    However, i agree with you this is a big fight for both and alongside Ward/Dirrell its the fight im looking forward to the most. I can see both guys taking this in all honesty, its a 50/50 fight for me as are most of these matchups imo.
     
  12. JoeAverage

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    It is a big fight for both...

    But we all know that.

    The real aim of the thread is to sell the division as weak.

    And that - is a big big FAIL.

    Don't even spend one second arguing with this person. He is so far out it is useless.

    FAIL.
     
  13. JoeAverage

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    Flail

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  15. Hermit

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    Full stop when you hit Dirrell. I think this young man may be for real. He is still quite young but has show very good potential.