who did they ever beat ?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by frankenfrank, Apr 21, 2010.


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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I don't care.

    You grossly underate fightes like Eddie mache.

    You admit that yo don't watch those fights.

    They are on youtube, they are available from DVD salesman.

    Whether you're underating the because of lauzyness or because you are poor doens't matter. You post nonsense about fighters you don't watch inspite of available footag. It's embarrassing and unique.

    Then watch another fight, one that meets more closely with your high standads.


    You know nothing about the era, nothing about what is or isn't available and aparrently you are capable even of knowing nothing about what is available on a free, readily available sight like youtube. ****, when you discover dailymotion or megaupload you might actually have a stroke.


    Frank, you mad *******, the fact that these amazingly important fights that you keep harping on about aren't availale doesn't make it reasonable to watch nothing that is available and still label the fighters concerned "bums" and "journeymen" without having seen them. It's the absolute height of arrogance and a major reason why people treat you as such a joke.
     
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  2. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sometimes boxrec is enough. And you did not even try to excuse their repeating humiliating losses.
    The first fights I searched for , I did it triggered by boxrec.
    Then you admit you just recommended me to watch an almost meaningless fight , just to try and prove your idiotic point that there are full old fart fights on youtube.
    And we haven't even discussed the quality yet , and I don't mean just the color and resolution , I mean the speed jumps especially and the sound interruptions to a much lesser degree.

    I am just not a good copy and paste historian and a quick googlist about these subjects as you are.
    You see , a little intelligence is better than a thousand fights watched.
    You (currently) saw more fights than I did , and I still know better than you how to recognize a bum. Isn't it great ?
    well , it is for me.
     
    frankenfrank, Apr 28, 2010
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Can you expand upon this? I don't understand it.


    Moore-Patterson is no a "meaningless fight". It is a fight for the HW championship contested between the #1 and #2 HW's of that era. Your opinion seems to be that Moore was finished. This is not true. But even if it was, it would still be arguably the best performance by the youngest HW champion in history. The fact that you can label this "meaningless" just helps to define the depths of your ignorance.


    If you are poor and interesed in boxing, you learn to live with it, i'm sure. I myself watch fights on YouTub most days inspite of the fact that I own a lot of dvd's.

    That's actually not correct. If you have seen thousands of fights you'll know infinitely more about fights than someone with "a little intelligence" who has seen few. You think understanding boxng is less to with boxing than intelligence? You're a ****ing idiot for thinking that, frankie :good And it shows in every single one of your posts.
     
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  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Expand upon Cleveland Williams , Zora Folley's , Eddie Machen's , Ernie Terrell and Joe Bugner's records , and come with a more grammatically correct answer than I could ever come with.

    Its only problem will be that its correctness will be merely grammatical.
    It was a fight between two men about the same size with 19 years of age separating between them.
    With no surprise in the end.
    Enjoy it.

    I have more things to do , but as the time passes I watch more and more fights. I won't try and compete with every fart whom currently watched more fights than I did.

    I still haven't seen thousands but I am sure I have watched dozens.
    With time they will turn to hundreds .
    I won't hurry and watch every partial unimportant fight at lousy quality just because you did it.
    I will try to watch the telling fights.
    Rarely they turn out to be full 15 rounders , but I try to prefer shorter ones.
    Another difference between us is in the percentage of partial fights you count as fights you have seen.
    I avoid it and highlights almost altogether.
    However , I am deceived from time to time and watched a little of that crap as well , but I try to avoid that ****.
     
    frankenfrank, Apr 28, 2010
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  5. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see the point in wasting time arguing with frankenfrank. He has admitted to me that he doesn't particularly care about watching boxing, even though he acts like an expert talking about it.

    I advise him to come back here after 5 more years of following boxing to have a laugh at the posts he has created today.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I do enjoy it; like I said, it's the seminal moment of a noted HW champion. Only an idiot would think it meaningless.



    Why bother? You're quite clear that watching boxing is of no help in understnding boxing.
     
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  7. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    I think he's probably a guy who's actually quite well-informed (but maybe a bit of a deviant when it comes to boxing history) who likes coming on here talking **** and trying to wind people up.
     
    itrymariti, Apr 28, 2010
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  8. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think your 100% right mate and, with the utmost respect to McGrain, shouldnt let himself be wound up by this by dignifying half them posts with replies.
     
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  9. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's certainly a strong possibility.
     
    TheGreatA, Apr 29, 2010
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  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Surprise : watching boxing is important in understanding boxing.
    That is my opinion.
    My reply to you meant judging fighters' greatness , and you knew very well what it meant , or did your disruption take over when you made this poor reply.
    Again , for every reasonable reader it was clear.
     
    frankenfrank, Apr 29, 2010
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol: incredible! Maybe you're not as stupid as i thought. Except that:

    :lol:
     
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  12. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so should I quote myself as a reply ?
     
    frankenfrank, Apr 29, 2010
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  13. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Sonny has mob connections, though. They've made dead men vote before, so perhaps a Liston comeback isn't outside the realm of possibility.


    Zombie-Liston KO 3 Vitali.
     
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  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think it's the only way you are going to find anyone who understands what you are talking about.
     
    McGrain, Apr 29, 2010
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  15. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    I think McGrain is just predisposed to try and light up people who come out with BS. I can imagine him IRL being the kind of guy to lick his chops at the prospect of embarassing some poor bloke in the pub who comes at him with the old "Prime Tyson would have destroyed anybody" or suchlike casual fans' myths.
     
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