If Pacquiao fights Mosley on May 1st....

you mean like PBF vs Judah happened after Judah got KTFO.

fact. Shane would be a tough fight for either man. One of pacs toughest and PBF first real test in 15 years.

i think paul williams would beat all three men @147. but no one calls him out.

 

Yes, of course 145 is within welterweight, if you read what I said you'll see that I don't dispute that.

I said that he was not allowed to fight as a natural welterweight - which of course means to exhibit all of the behaviours associated with a natural welterweight, one of which will be to weigh in anything up to and including 147 pounds. Cotto was not allowed to do this, this was potentially to his detrement.

Where did you get your figures? According to boxrec the fight was Cotto's first weighing in below 146 pounds since June 2006.

 

to argue that I stated that 145 pounds is not welterweight shows a lack of understanding of the English language, if I were you I would take a verbal reasoning course.

 

Lets see how he does against floyd. If floyd schools him then no. but if thats the case pac will definitly fight him.

 

lotta u guys are more confodent in pac then his handlers

 

IF in one hane and **** in the other

 

I say yes with absolute confidence.Mosley is leagues above Cotto and Clottey. Them guys are good..Mosley is great there's a difference. :shock:

 

No. A trend would have to be more than once.

Trend= a general tendency

Tendency=a pattern of behavior

A pattern of behavior= Bob Arum putting pac in the ring with hatton after he gets destroyed, with delahoya after he lost, with cotto after he got pistol whipped, with clottey after he lost.

Yet to see pac fight at welterweight against someone not coming off of a lost. I like pacquiao but it is what it is. Now this is your time to not acknowledge what i said about team pac and find a way to somehow discredit floyd or turn this to a discussion about floyd's past, in which at that point i wont respond because this is about pacquiao.

 

in any case, Cotto came out after the fight and said he felt great at the weight, so it's a moot point anyway.

 

That's interesting? I didn't know that he'd actually said that.

I actually don't think that the result would have been much different at 147 given that Cotto had plenty of time to plan for making 145 so I'm sure that all of the necessary adjustments were made. I just wish the fight had have been at 147 erasing any doubt about whether Manny was facing Cotto at 100%

 

Shane Mosley still got beat by Miguel Cotto. And Cotto is in Pacquiao's résumé.

You see, that's the trouble with a fighter who hasn't tested himself with the best in his weight class. Of course Mosley would have Floyd as one of his best wins if he does indeed win, alongside the first Dela Hoya fight. But were Floyd to fight next Paul Williams, Cintron, Pacquiao and Cotto who knows if his potential one loss won't become higher. I don't think he gets by that list unscathed, especially if he falls to Shane on May 1st. If that happens, Floyd would virtually be an overrated fighter at welterweight, and may no longer be one of the best wins in Shane's career, given enough time for historical perspective.

 

It's not an issue, but one would make it out to be if he has an agenda.

Cotto weighed in just 1lb more against Clottey. He himself claimed it didn't affect him at all. These worthless posters presume to know more about Cotto than the man himself. It would have been a great excuse for a loss, especially with the way the fight turned out, but Cotto didn't go there. He didn't say it affected him before the fight, and after the loss. Go figure why some assholes would make an issue of it.

Hmm is it just coincidence these very people are rabid supporters of other fighters? :huh

 

BULL****. The only one you could say on that list is Barrera at the time. The rest give me break.

 

This is your quote

Please explain how 145 is NOT a "natural" welter. You are playing the semantics game. You are trying to redefine welter as 147 and only 147. You added the qualifier "natural" to make as if 145 does not fit the welter class. Stop making excuses for Cotto. He did not use it before or after the fight. Why would you?

Now you are backpedaling.

Good try. Edit your original post first and then your reply would be more sensible.