Mike Tyson Vs. George Foreman

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  1. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Alot of people are debating Tyson is a better fighter than Frazier. Could he have withstood the onslaught of a prime rampaging Foreman any better than Frazier?
     
  2. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Yes. Much better chin and defense.
     
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  3. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Yes, Tyson and Frazier are quite different fighters. Frazier was a swarmer, Tyson a puncher.
    Some key differences between them:

    -Tyson is probably the harder hitter punch for punch
    -Tyson has less predictable head movement but was less consistent with it
    -Tyson started extremely fast whereas Frazier needed rounds to get smoking
    -Frazier has far better stamina and usually broke him opponents down untill they couldn't give anymore. Tyson usually finished his opponents with one or more combinations or even one punch. The only time he broke his opponent down was Biggs, but he was never really in the fight.
    -Frazier was the better infighter whereas Tyson usually took a rest on the inside.
    -Tyson had knockout power in both hands whereas Frazier relied mostly on the left hook. Also, Frazier didn't use the uppercut as often as Tyson seemed to. Tyson had better combinations.

    Because of these differences in style, i think Tyson would do much better against Foreman because he's just as deadly early on as Foreman is. His head movement is also a bit less predictable early on and he has better quick combinations. That said, i still favor Foreman to beat Tyson, but Tyson has a decent to good chance of winning.
     
  4. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Excellent post. :bbb
     
  5. mcvey

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    Good post ,Isee George winning early say ko 3rds,but Tyson would be dangerous all the time,he had more tools than Frazierbut wasnt as effective inside,his hand speed and two fisted power make him a risk for anyone imo.
     
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    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I think it'd last around 6. Tyson has a chance of a late stoppage if he doesn't trade. But I think he will, his solid chin would take him to the middle rounds.
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I don't see why Tyson couldn't knock Foreman out.

    His punching is a bit sharper and his combo puncing is crackling. If Tyson is the first to score big (good chance), I think he could finish his man.

    I personally would make Tyson the favourite here.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    D'Amato told Tyson no fighter of his style in history would beat Foreman and i tend to agree. Foreman by stoppage around the time dinner says.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Whoever forces the other back and whoever gets their shots off first (ie beats the opponent to the punch) wins. Could be a real back and forth fight
     
  10. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson has glaring disadvantages that would make it a fairly easy stompage win. Foreman was too strong and would force Tyson backwards without even having to think strategically like Holyfield did. If Foreman is allowed to shove Tyson like he did Frazier, then Tyson will be at a further disadvantage.

    Tyson does hit harder than Frazier, has a greater repertoire of punches, starts more explosively and has less predictable head movement... but it wouldn't really make much of a difference. Foreman's early rush was overwhelming and Tyson would have no chance outside of puncher's chance.

    I see Tyson slipping the telephone polls that Foreman will throw and stepping closer at an angle to land nice shots to Foreman's sides. Foreman will not wilt under this and will instead manhandle Tyson -by shoving him off balance and coming inexorably in behind monster shots.
    Tyson was durable, yes, but he was not resilient (physically or emotionally). Once hurt, I don't remember him ever fully recovering to win. Douglas and Holyfield proved this. His effectiveness plummeted although he was still dangerous. Against Holyfield, he couldn't remember anything after about the 3rd round. Foreman would make it so he couldn't remember anything after that 1st minute of the first round.

    If Tyson were bigger and were not so reliant on forward motion, he'd have more of a chance. But considering Foreman's iron chin, physical strength, and power, Tyson wouldn't hear the 9th round bell... and that only because he was durable.
     
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  11. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Foreman by early KO
     
  12. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i agree too. no way in hell would tyson beat a prime foreman. 1 punch from foreman would leave tyson wobbly, and thats where foreman attacks with those combinations that he landed to frazier, tyson will be KO'd.
     
  13. MoneyPunch

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    You lot are deluded.
    Foreman was beaten to the punch easily every time by a faded Ali, and so Tysons lightning fast hand speed and foot speed is a nightmare for Foreman.
    Tyson would stop Foreman, make, no mistake about that.
     
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    I see Amateur Hour has started.
     
  15. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Source?

    I find that a horribly sweeping sort of statement to make by a topclass trainer.