Dana White is a DISGRACE...

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by horst, Apr 27, 2010.


  1. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    I dont have a problem with this fight happening either.Atleast Toney has ELITE level striking skills(Hands)..

    Not much people(especially in MMA) can bring that to the table..

    I really dont know why people are getting so pissed with this bout taking place..Its just one of the fights that will be on the card.
     
  2. the beaver

    the beaver Guest

    I'm a boxing fan but if Toney wants to bad mouth these UFC fighter throw him to the wolves.......... don't have a problem with Dana on this one.
     
  3. ozziebattler

    ozziebattler Shadow Boxer Full Member

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    Toney followed Dana around like the Plague wanting to BEAT ON the likes of Lesnar and co..

    Its now happening..No big deal..

    If he wins then it will be though.
     
  4. horst

    horst Guest


    This post answers all of these concerns:



    Seriously, wait and see the fall-out from this mismatch, and see who was right.
     
  5. eltorrente

    eltorrente Active Member Full Member

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    I still don't understand who you think would be a "suitable" opponent for Toney. (?)

    ANY UFC fighter would destroy Toney in a humiliating fashion. He has no chance no matter who he fights.
     
  6. horst

    horst Guest

    I agree with you to an extent, but to throw Toney in with Couture in his first fight is the same as someone like Leben or Ortiz being chucked in with a Hopkins or Holyfield in their 1st fight as a pro boxer - it's ludicrous.

    Toney would have a microscopic chance of beating someone who likes to stand up. Toney would have a microscopic chance against someone who is a grade C MMA fighter, a journeyman.

    Randy Couture is neither of those things. He is an extremely experienced, extremely skilled wrestler who is still competing at top 10 divisional level. It's a horrid choice of a bout.
     
  7. codeman99998

    codeman99998 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it isn't the same and if you think it is you don't really understand Mixed Martial Arts. Against Randy Couture Toney has superior hands and if he can utilize those hands he can win. Against Hopkins or Holyfield in a boxing match Leben or Ortiz have superior nothing.
     
  8. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Picture Brock Lesnar slamming Toney's ass....................

    Priceless! :lol:

    Frank Mir would humiliate Toney too, he has more than just a good standup game.
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Honestly, your reasoning is just silly. The UFC is NOT going to "come under heavy fire" for putting an elite, world class boxer up against Randy Couture. We are talking about a two HOF fighters. Toney isn't young enough to form into an all around MMA fighter. It's silly to waste whatever short amount of time Toney has in the UFC by putting him in a hopeless fight against a no-name fighter that will probably beat him. Even if Toney beat some nobody that they through in front of him... it isn't like anyone who has a problem with Toney fighting Couture would suddenly have a huge change of heart. It's just silly.

    There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with Toney vs Couture. Especially given the fact that Randy is a good bit older than Toney, and clearly on the slide himself.

    Let's say that Randy fights smart, shoots in... takes Toney down and wins in dominating fashion. So what? Toney just lost to Randy Couture. They could still sell big by putting Toney up against a guy like Chuck Liddell, or Wanderlei Silva. Knowing that there will be a better chance of those guys standing with him and creating an exciting winnable fight for James. Let's say that James loses to those guys. Big deal... still two very well known great MMA fighters. So, in Toney's 3rd on his UFC contract he can be given a fight against someone like Kimbo. Once again... people would still tune in like crazy to watch that match-up. In other words... you can always make reasonable match-ups with a guy like James Toney that people would love to tune in and see. However, you can't climb UP the ladder if he gets beat by a lesser fighter first. It is easy to come down the ladder after a loss and find fun matchups that everyone will want to see.
     
  10. james4210

    james4210 Active Member Full Member

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    One could Not possibly make it in the UFC without years of training in MMA.

    well what about this guy,
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    is world wrestling entertainment more of a preparation for the UFC than being a world champion heavyweight boxer?
     
  11. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Are you forgetting about his extensive and successful REAL wrestling experience? WWE was nothing more than a money maker for him. It actually really helped his marketing for MMA though. The man comes over with a shitload of fans/haters, ect... people who are going to pay to watch him fight.
     
  12. Calroid

    Calroid Active Member Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  13. eltorrente

    eltorrente Active Member Full Member

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    During his collegiate wrestling career, he managed to win the 1998 NJCAA Heavyweight and 2000 NCAA Heavyweight Championships. Further, Lesnar was both a two-time NJCAA and NCAA All American, and placed second at the NCAA's in 1999. All told, he posted an astounding 106-5 overall wrestling record over four years in college. :deal
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Thank you.
     
  15. As a keen boxing fan I am utterly against this. Dana White and James Toney are dumbarses.

    Randy Couture though...:think:lol: