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  1. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huhThere was no voting system in place for anyone to approve or disapprove of your 'any fight between any of the top 3 ranked fighters determines a champion' suggestion. All people voted on were threads titled 'should so and so be given a championship for for a certain fight'. Of course people would vote 'yes' as there are loads of fanboys out there who would just vote for their fighter in any such poll and not what is best for the rankings as a whole. How about:

    If any of the top 3 ranked fighters fight each other and there is a vacant title, they are elevated to 'champion' status in that division; If a fighter beats 5 fighters ranked in the top ten at the time he faced them, he is promoted to 'champion' status should there be a vacancy.

    Other than something like that and you are giving away titles, IMO:good.
     
    Losfer_Words, Apr 27, 2010
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  2. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    ok how about

    A fighter can become World Champion by beating the existing World Champion. If a Championship is vacant in a division, the number 1 ranked fighter can win the title by winning 3 fights in a row agaisnt top 10 opponents while being ranked 1st in that division, or by beating an eligible fighter You can become an eligible fighter by;

    a) being ranked in the top 3 of your division.
    b) winning 2 fights in a row against top 10 fighters
    c) if you are the World Champion in another weight class

    If a World Champion looses a fight in a different weight class, or he does not compete in that weight class for 365 days, he will loose his Championship. He can regain the title by beating a top 10 ranked fighter.
     
    robpalmer135, Apr 28, 2010
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  3. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    New Rules added

    1) These rankings our for the fans, by the fans. They are formulated using polls, discussion and debate. The rankings must be based on performance and level of opposition faced. All opinions will be considered.

    2) To be ranked fighters must have had a bout within 365 days. Fighters removed from the rankings will be re-ranked once they have boxed again depending on performance.

    3) Fighters can only be ranked at one weight and will always be ranked in the last division the boxed in unless they state it's one off.

    4) A fighter can become World Champion by beating the existing World Champion. If a Championship is vacant in a division, the number 1 ranked fighter can win the title by winning 3 fights in a row against top 10 opponents while being ranked 1st in that division, or by beating an eligible fighter who will be marked in
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    You can become an eligible fighter by;
    a) Being ranked in the top 3 of your division.
    b) Winning 3 fights in a row against top 10 fighters
    c) If you are the World Champion in another weight class

    5) A World Champion can lose their title by;
    a) Losing a title fight
    b) If a Champion consecutively fights 3 opponents that are not ranked, while Champion they can be stripped. A poll will be created for ESB members to vote on this if the situation arises.
    c) Not defending the title within 365 days. If stripped for this reason you can regain the title by beating another eligible fighter.

    6) If a fighter is found to be cheating and suspended by a governing body they will be removed from the rankings. There record prior to the suspension will not be considered when they fight again.

    7) The P4P rankings our done using a vote system. The next vote will take place after May 1st.
     
    robpalmer135, Apr 28, 2010
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  4. robpalmer135

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    Top 15 now added

    New Championship rules added

    Results Added

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    robpalmer135, Apr 30, 2010
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  5. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    final results for April added
     
    robpalmer135, May 1, 2010
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  6. TommyV

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    Does that mean Mayweather can't win the title but Mosley can?
     
    TommyV, May 1, 2010
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  7. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Correct. In Mosleys come back he is fighter an eligible fighter, Mayweather did not.
     
    robpalmer135, May 1, 2010
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  8. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    Typical.
     
    TommyV, May 1, 2010
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  9. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Believe this is incorrect. Mosley was not Champion before he was removed from the rankings for inactivity iirc. Therefore he is not eligible to fight for the title. As per the rules posted, he can be re-ranked after he fights again and if he were re-ranked at number one he would then need to beat an eligable fighter or win three consecutive fights against top ten fighters.
     
    Cobbler, May 1, 2010
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  10. TommyV

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    Or to save it from being needlessly complicated, recognise that they are both top 3 welterweights and make them both eligible for the title.
     
    TommyV, May 1, 2010
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  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Well yeah, in which case you would need to just do away with the inactivity rule. Personally I support the inactivity rule.
     
    Cobbler, May 1, 2010
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  12. hagman1989

    hagman1989 the boxing site , try it Full Member

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    the votes said it should be for the welterweight title so why chnge that now
     
    hagman1989, May 1, 2010
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  13. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Did you mean this to say that, if a title is vacant, the only person who can possibly win it is the number one ranked fighter (or a previous champion who has been stripped for inactivity)?

    Under the rules as they are written, if the two highest ranked supermiddleweights Bute and Ward were to fight next week, Bute could become champion with a win, but Ward wouldn't. If Pacquiao and Mayweather were fighting, Pacquiao could become champion with a win, Mayweather wouldn't.
     
    Cobbler, May 1, 2010
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  14. robpalmer135

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    thats right Mosley was not champion. will change that.

    yeh the rules read wrong. will change that.
     
    robpalmer135, May 1, 2010
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  15. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    this read better??

    4) A fighter can become World Champion by beating the existing World Champion. If a Championship is vacant in a division it can be won by;
    a) a fight between the number 1 ranked fighter and another eligible fighter who will be marked in red
    b) being ranked number 1 and have won 3 consecutive fights against top 10 opponents

    i seem to remember Mosley being champ but have checked it and he wasnt although going by the current rules he would have been. maybe thats where i got confused.
     
    robpalmer135, May 1, 2010
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